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Post by stormymondays on Mar 31, 2021 15:58:13 GMT -6
I wonder if such a thing exists. I know Pro Tools has a transport auto fade setting, but I don’t know about other DAWs. Logic Pro X certainly doesn’t! (Or I can’t find it)
I’m getting tired of the clicks and pops causing by hitting stop or play on a non-zero crossing audio file, which is everywhere on a full song.
If anybody is aware of a solution, let me know! I suppose the right developer could code this as a plugin in no time. I might even send the idea to a few developers.
All the plugin needs to do is to detect the transport and create a fade. I’m sure it can be done on start, not so sure about stop, but if a reverb tail can sound after stop, I suppose a plugin on the master bus could do something too?
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Post by Blackdawg on Mar 31, 2021 16:10:18 GMT -6
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Post by stormymondays on Mar 31, 2021 16:26:01 GMT -6
Thanks, it might just work! I’ll be back at the studio tomorrow probably and can test it.
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Post by Blackdawg on Mar 31, 2021 16:51:03 GMT -6
Thanks, it might just work! I’ll be back at the studio tomorrow probably and can test it. Doesn't do "fades" really but it'll mute whatever bus or busses you put it on and set to the mode. Handy for at least putting on the reverb busses to kill the tails or other effects. |
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Post by theshea on Apr 1, 2021 0:54:29 GMT -6
I wonder if such a thing exists. I know Pro Tools has a transport auto fade setting, but I don’t know about other DAWs. Logic Pro X certainly doesn’t! (Or I can’t find it) I’m getting tired of the clicks and pops causing by hitting stop or play on a non-zero crossing audio file, which is everywhere on a full song. If anybody is aware of a solution, let me know! I suppose the right developer could code this as a plugin in no time. I might even send the idea to a few developers. All the plugin needs to do is to detect the transport and create a fade. I’m sure it can be done on start, not so sure about stop, but if a reverb tail can sound after stop, I suppose a plugin on the master bus could do something too? in logic‘s inspector on the upper left site in the arrangement window you can set a general fade in/out time for each region section. so no more clicks. plus in the audio settings you can put a fade in/out time for crossfades. never have problems with clicks and never have to do it manually. |
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Post by stormymondays on Apr 1, 2021 3:07:18 GMT -6
Thanks, I’m not talking about edit clicks, I don’t get those. Just solo a deep bass, and press play and stop during one sustained note. Those clicks! 🤬
Edit: I wonder if this is interface specific (I have an RME Fireface 802).
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Post by theshea on Apr 1, 2021 5:45:05 GMT -6
i don‘t get those clicks as you describe. i have a RME fireface.
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Post by stormymondays on Apr 1, 2021 6:21:57 GMT -6
i don‘t get those clicks as you describe. i have a RME fireface. That’s interesting information. Maybe I am getting DC offset in my tracks. What’s your DAW? I see that quite a few do the tiny fade that avoids clicks. |
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Post by theshea on Apr 1, 2021 6:51:11 GMT -6
i don‘t get those clicks as you describe. i have a RME fireface. That’s interesting information. Maybe I am getting DC offset in my tracks. What’s your DAW? I see that quite a few do the tiny fade that avoids clicks. logic pro x |
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Post by stormymondays on Apr 1, 2021 7:32:26 GMT -6
Thanks. I’m going to test this for real when I’m back at the studio. I might send you a track for testing if you don’t mind. I’ll PM you.
If it’s not something that happens to everyone with a similar setup, then I need to fix it!!!
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Post by popmann on Apr 1, 2021 20:23:08 GMT -6
When I first read I thought "WTF is he talking about?" --I mean I understand the zero crossing technical bit--but, why is that a THING? I've used a lot of DAW with a lot of hardware and OS combinations**--I've never had a DAW click when you stop. The weirdest was that Mixbus has a weird "bug" with certain hardware/OS combos where it silences on stop--as in, the reverb/delays to trail out...that was offputting and WAS a bug with specific configs supposedly. That's the only time I've given ANY thought to a DAW stopping at all...
**including a year or so with LogicX a couple years back
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Post by the other mark williams on Apr 1, 2021 22:56:22 GMT -6
Thanks. I’m going to test this for real when I’m back at the studio. I might send you a track for testing if you don’t mind. I’ll PM you. If it’s not something that happens to everyone with a similar setup, then I need to fix it!!! The only times I've had something like this happen with Logic (and I've been using it since 2003), it was the fault of a plugin. Or yes, if something in your system is causing a DC offset when recording, that would also presumably do it. There are some plugins that don't pass DC, so if this is the issue, you could put one of those plugs last in the chain for the track(s) with the problem. There used to be an occasional plugin that wouldn't empty its buffer correctly in Logic and would cause similar types of noises - though I'm not sure offhand if that was related to the issue you describe. HydraTone (by TriTone Digital back in the day) was an offender for a time if I'm not mistaken. Once TriTone fixed it, problem was solved. But regardless, the behavior you're describing is not normal, and should not be happening. I haven't experienced it in many years. I'm on a Metric Halo interface. |
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Post by stormymondays on Apr 2, 2021 3:46:54 GMT -6
Thank you all, I have a bit of testing to do once I’m back at the studio. My interface is supposed to block DC but I’m not ruling out anything. I’m glad I asked instead of suffering in silence!  However, now I know that at least PT and Reaper do this quick fade on stop/start that would cure this problem for anyone that had it. I’ll report back my findings. |
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Post by drumsound on Apr 2, 2021 10:07:45 GMT -6
Is it possible that your computer is getting long in the tooth and it's causing some weirdness?
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Post by stormymondays on Apr 9, 2021 3:17:06 GMT -6
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Post by mrholmes on Apr 11, 2021 14:47:38 GMT -6
Thanks, I’m not talking about edit clicks, I don’t get those. Just solo a deep bass, and press play and stop during one sustained note. Those clicks! 🤬 Edit: I wonder if this is interface specific (I have an RME Fireface 802).
I have two 802, and I don't have this in LogicX...
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Post by stormymondays on Apr 11, 2021 14:56:53 GMT -6
As soon as I finish my current project I’m going to take one morning and really get down to this, starting from scratch.
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Post by mrholmes on Apr 11, 2021 16:59:51 GMT -6
As soon as I finish my current project I’m going to take one morning and really get down to this, starting from scratch.
1. Update your RME firmware and drivers and see if it goes away. 2.
Don't forget to reset your P RAM. 3.
Do a hardware RAM reset too.
In 99% of all cases it solved problems for me.
If all above is not helping your logic session maybe is corrupted, and you need to reimport the session into a fresh one.
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