kcatthedog
Temp
Super Helpful Dude
Posts: 15,091
Member is Online
|
Post by kcatthedog on Jun 12, 2021 15:24:39 GMT -6
We are all, big boys and girls, the wait with Stam is a drag, but when the product shows up, I have been very pleased.
I also had to cancel a couple of things, the 609, one of them and the refund was immediate. I also took advantage of the return policy once and that policy was honoured too.
|
|
|
Post by Johnkenn on Jun 12, 2021 16:09:49 GMT -6
Just like every product I’ve had from Stam - the tone is phenomenal. I get it…but the sound is always great. Thank you John Much appreciated. I hope you are digging the SA-609! Once I get my head above water, I'm gonna do a review. I'm loving it.
|
|
|
Post by Johnkenn on Jun 12, 2021 16:15:09 GMT -6
BTW - I would say the D-Comp can get dirtier than the 609 - but different topologies...The D-comp is probably more versatile due to the HPF...I think the SA-609 imparts more of a sonic imprint with a huge low end. For me, I can see using the D-comp for Drumbus/parallel and the 33609 on 2-bus.
|
|
|
Post by jmoose on Jun 12, 2021 18:14:21 GMT -6
We are all, big boys and girls, the wait with Stam is a drag, but when the product shows up, I have been very pleased. I also had to cancel a couple of things, the 609, one of them and the refund was immediate. I also took advantage of the return policy once and that policy was honoured too. I have a few friends, like real life... not interknot friends who've been through the ringer with Stam. At least three guys all went through the multiple year wait and yes, did eventually get made whole. Either by getting something else that was in stock - or - a refund. After years. None of them got what they originally wanted. 0 for 3. That's a strikeout. Maybe I'm weird, but I feel like if I order something I should get what I ordered? Maybe in a somewhat timely fashion? Doesn't matter how excellent something is if it never arrives... Babies are born in 9 months how hard is it to stuff a circuit board and shove it in a box? But its also the same reason I don't have any Analog Man pedals. Like I don't really give a shit how awesome that fuzz box might be, its not a 30 month wait worth of awesome. Not when I can drive 20 minutes to my local shop and they have every Earthquaker pedal and a hundred others in stock. To be fair here, its also why I can't consider Audioscape all that seriously. One of those same friends tried for months to get their 1176 & SSL type... eventually gave up and bought Warm's. He wanted to get to work, not play whack a mole with a purchase. I'm sure all the gear from both sounds great & people like it and whatnot. More likely I'm not their target customer? Not that I'm impatient but I don't have time to go chasing people around either. Thanks for understanding.
|
|
|
Post by Johnkenn on Jun 12, 2021 19:52:00 GMT -6
Is it hard to get AS stuff?
|
|
|
Post by bgrotto on Jun 12, 2021 20:39:52 GMT -6
I’ve bought AS stuff three time (so far...). All three times I was able to order what I wanted, the night it became available.
|
|
|
Post by Blackdawg on Jun 12, 2021 20:59:13 GMT -6
Is it hard to get AS stuff? No. Just takes a bit of planning and paying attention. It's not super easy. But it's not hard either. Takes effort.
|
|
|
Post by jcoutu1 on Jun 12, 2021 21:23:09 GMT -6
jmoose, Stam and audioscape couldn't be any more different business models. One sells what's built and ready to go, and the other sells ideas that they have.
|
|
|
Post by Johnkenn on Jun 12, 2021 21:31:15 GMT -6
jmoose, Stam and audioscape couldn't be any more different business models. One sells what's built and ready to go, and the other sells ideas that they have. Salty
|
|
|
Post by ab101 on Jun 12, 2021 21:34:29 GMT -6
The buzz is great and on the clean side. The heritage is great and definitely on the color side. But I have to say, for color, I am very impressed with the D-comp. They are all different. Would I want the Heritage on the 2 buss? Probably not. I would put it on some instruments or vocals, but I would not want the entire mix through it. The buzz can handle that well. But if I could only have one, it would be the D-comp. I very rarely get a piece of gear and have that wow factor right away. The D-comp did that. The audioscape opto did that. The Gyraf G22 did that and is very versatile. Just my thoughts. Ab, I'm considering an opto purchase and have been eyeing the Buzz SOC or Essence, or Audioscape Opto or V3A which I believe you've tried/owned some of these, which would you pick if you had to do it over? My priority is tracking vocals atm.. thx for any suggestions! The audioscape opto is fantastic for that. The Buzz Socs are great if you are not interested in much vibe. I also love the Buzz essence. I have not tried the V3a. But considering La2a type compressors are used one heck of a lot for recording vocals and for good reason, and given that the audioscape opto is a fantastic la2a type with a beautiful tone and has a very low price for how it sounds, I would not depart with the audioscape opto.
|
|
|
Post by jmoose on Jun 12, 2021 22:11:55 GMT -6
jmoose , Stam and audioscape couldn't be any more different business models. One sells what's built and ready to go, and the other sells ideas that they have. That'd be funny if it didn't seem to be so rooted in truth! Fwiw with AS my bud had his experience summer of 2019? Certainly before world events took hold and so for better or worse theres a reputation that precedes... Joining mailing lists & having to check a website at specific times of day isn't nearly as easy as making a phone call and getting a box delivered a couple days later. Whatever... getting dragged into something that doesn't matter to me in the slightest. The most kickass compressor is the one I have in my hands right now! Not possibly 6 months from now... if I'm lucky...
|
|
|
Post by Johnkenn on Jun 12, 2021 22:54:39 GMT -6
jmoose , Stam and audioscape couldn't be any more different business models. One sells what's built and ready to go, and the other sells ideas that they have. That'd be funny if it didn't seem to be so rooted in truth! Fwiw with AS my bud had his experience summer of 2019? Certainly before world events took hold and so for better or worse theres a reputation that precedes... Joining mailing lists & having to check a website at specific times of day isn't nearly as easy as making a phone call and getting a box delivered a couple days later. Whatever... getting dragged into something that doesn't matter to me in the slightest. The most kickass compressor is the one I have in my hands right now! Not possibly 6 months from now... if I'm lucky... I mean - ok. No big deal - might not be for you. But getting other gear is equally as hard right now. In fact, bet I could buy two V-comps before I find one sta-level.
|
|
|
Post by jmoose on Jun 13, 2021 0:07:16 GMT -6
.....
|
|
|
Post by stam on Jun 13, 2021 1:10:29 GMT -6
Thank you John Much appreciated. I hope you are digging the SA-609! Once I get my head above water, I'm gonna do a review. I'm loving it. I very much look forward to your review John Thanks again!
|
|
kcatthedog
Temp
Super Helpful Dude
Posts: 15,091
Member is Online
|
Post by kcatthedog on Jun 13, 2021 4:22:16 GMT -6
If one is interested in AS gear and has had challenges with its auction style, there is something to be said for reaching out to them here as an rgo bro.
|
|
|
Post by Ward on Jun 13, 2021 11:07:51 GMT -6
If one is interested in AS gear and has had challenges with its auction style, there is something to be said for reaching out to them here as an rgo bro. [Ward waves his hand furiously in the air!] "I'm here to help!"
|
|
|
Post by Johnkenn on Jun 13, 2021 11:17:46 GMT -6
|
|
kcatthedog
Temp
Super Helpful Dude
Posts: 15,091
Member is Online
|
Post by kcatthedog on Jun 13, 2021 14:33:38 GMT -6
Exactly !
|
|
kcatthedog
Temp
Super Helpful Dude
Posts: 15,091
Member is Online
|
Post by kcatthedog on Jun 13, 2021 14:36:00 GMT -6
jmoose, just to be clear, your three friends had the option of cancelling and getting a full refund but chose other products, which they received ? They didn’t receive items they had not ordered ?
|
|
|
Post by Chad on Jun 13, 2021 15:07:17 GMT -6
Starting around 2017, I’ve had really wonderful experiences buying 3 products from Stam Audio, and 2 products from Audio-Scape.
And... I received very polite updates and communication from both gentleman running each of those companies.
These two are really really good guys, and based my solid experience with them, some day I would LOVE to own more of their products in my home studio.
Chad
|
|
|
Post by stam on Jun 13, 2021 15:31:28 GMT -6
How refreshing Chad!!
Someone that actually appreciates what both companies are trying to do.
Hats of to you and I am sure me as well as AS look forward to serving you in the future.
|
|
|
Post by jmoose on Jun 13, 2021 16:03:08 GMT -6
jmoose , just to be clear, your three friends had the option of cancelling and getting a full refund but chose other products, which they received ? They didn’t receive items they had not ordered ? Feel I was pretty clear... have nothing else to say on the matter. Anything further is a waste of time. Not what I came here for.
|
|
|
Post by mike on Jun 13, 2021 19:39:11 GMT -6
Starting around 2017, I’ve had really wonderful experiences buying 3 products from Stam Audio, and 2 products from Audio-Scape. And... I received very polite updates and communication from both gentleman running each of those companies. These two are really really good guys, and based my solid experience with them, some day I would LOVE to own more of their products in my home studio. Chad
Same here.
Over the last few years, I've ordered 4 products from Stam Audio and 2 products from Audio-Scape, and have had nothing but good experiences with both gentleman/companies. With nothing but good to say about both, I wouldn't hesitate to buy from either again and I appreciate what they do.
Mike
|
|
|
Post by jmoose on Jun 13, 2021 20:09:46 GMT -6
SNIP And if were going to spend in that range Manley vari mu could get the nod. Among other boxes. Bruv, sometimes I can't gel with a piece of gear and the Vari-Mu was one. I had mine for a few years. A few years of trying to make it work. Patching it in, patching it out, so it just occupied a lot of space and tied up capital. Much MUCH happier with the audioscape V-Comp. It Mu-ves me. Attempting to get back on target here... I'm looking to add a compressor for the 2 mix with obvious color. Clean? Transparent? Nah. Have that already. And fwiw I also have an SSL type... RMS 755 super stereo. And it's great, has gotten used somewhere on nearly every mix for the last decade plus. But i also dont really love it. Main reason I have it is because there are plenty of times a project comes in for mixing and I need that particular sound. Obvious color for me can be desired because I want a heavy tonal stamp. Sometimes that's what the music needs... In a world where some artists are tracking at home, sending things out for mix... Often I get things that are squeaky clean and input like... Our mixes sound ok but they don't pop like our favorite famous album. Many of those albums were mixed to tape and with transformer coupled consoles & outboard. Theres a certain tone to that. So my thinking is why not get a Manley or 33609? Tube Tech LCA etc that can throw on some color? Owned & mixed to an A80 years ago & I'm happy to be free of actual tape machines... but... that tone? Sometimes lacking. Last year I did a lot of ITB mixing. More then like, the previous 5 years combined. Obvious differences between hard & software aside... I found myself gravitating towards things like the UAD vari mu & Fairchild across the stereo bus. So that got me thinking..?
|
|
|
Post by jcoutu1 on Jun 13, 2021 21:16:03 GMT -6
Attempting to get back on target here... I'm looking to add a compressor for the 2 mix with obvious color. Clean? Transparent? Nah. Have that already. And fwiw I also have an SSL type... RMS 755 super stereo. And it's great, has gotten used somewhere on nearly every mix for the last decade plus. But i also dont really love it. Main reason I have it is because there are plenty of times a project comes in for mixing and I need that particular sound. Obvious color for me can be desired because I want a heavy tonal stamp. Sometimes that's what the music needs... In a world where some artists are tracking at home, sending things out for mix... Often I get things that are squeaky clean and input like... Our mixes sound ok but they don't pop like our favorite famous album. Many of those albums were mixed to tape and with transformer coupled consoles & outboard. Theres a certain tone to that. So my thinking is why not get a Manley or 33609? Tube Tech LCA etc that can throw on some color? Owned & mixed to an A80 years ago & I'm happy to be free of actual tape machines... but... that tone? Sometimes lacking. Last year I did a lot of ITB mixing. More then like, the previous 5 years combined. Obvious differences between hard & software aside... I found myself gravitating towards things like the UAD vari mu & Fairchild across the stereo bus. So that got me thinking..? I haven't really liked the Tube Tech when I've used it at studios. I wouldn't personally consider buying one. I owned a TG1 a couple years back and thought it was a really cool compressor with some serious tone and the build felt like a million bucks. Haven't used the Manley. How about a 2500? That's got some cool vibe for rock music, especially when you drive that makeup. Or, if you wanna get wild, check out a Thermionic Culture Rooster. I used that on my drum bus for a bit and it could do some awesome stuff. The eq was nice, but that attitude was KILLER!
|
|