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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 15, 2014 17:31:09 GMT -6
I've heard some people call them their secret weapon and some people go, "meh..." The used price is beautiful, though. Anybody used one very much?
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Post by jcoutu1 on Apr 15, 2014 17:43:37 GMT -6
I'm in the secret weapon camp. Like a smoother on top 87 ime. How much they going for?
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 15, 2014 17:54:32 GMT -6
I got it for $1325...That's cheap as heck as far as Neumann's go...I wouldn't doubt these start going up too. It's an early 80's one too. I have a friend that has one that he loves...I sent him the pic of the one I bought and the serials were two numbers off.
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 18, 2014 17:40:25 GMT -6
Just got it...been playing around with it...Really nice. But it's VERY similar to my modded CV4. I little more forward in the 1khz range (which doesn't do my voice any favors)...but it has a really nice top - no chinese zing. I have no idea if one like this from the 80's is different than the new ones. I haven't decided whether I'll keep it or not, though, because it's so similar. I would actually highly recommend this mic instead of many of the under $2000 new mics available out there.
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Post by littlesicily on Apr 18, 2014 18:54:59 GMT -6
Just got it...been playing around with it...Really nice. But it's VERY similar to my modded CV4. I little more forward in the 1khz range (which doesn't do my voice any favors)...but it has a really nice top - no chinese zing. I have no idea if one like this from the 80's is different than the new ones. I haven't decided whether I'll keep it or not, though, because it's so similar. I would actually highly recommend this mic instead of many of the under $2000 new mics available out there. Is it same cap as 87? |
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 18, 2014 19:01:52 GMT -6
No - smaller..."The U 89 i is similar in appearance to the U 87. It is of smaller size, and lighter weight. It features five instead of three directional characteristics and a higher maximum sound pressure level which make this microphone easier adaptable to different applications."
I'm gonna try it on acoustic tonight...see how I like it.
"The microphone is addressed from the front, marked with the Neumann logo. The large diaphragm capsule has a very smooth frequency response for all polar patterns over a wide acceptance angle. The frequency response curves are flat up to 10 kHz within a pickup angle of ± 100°.
As a result the U 89 i has a very even diffuse-field response for all polar patterns. This is important in a reverberant environment when more reflections arrive at the microphone capsule. The acoustic information is not affected in its tonal quality when recorded by the microphone.
This characteristic is achieved without resorting to corrective resonance effects.
The capsule it is elastically mounted to avoid any structure borne noise that could interfere with its operation."
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Post by svart on Apr 18, 2014 19:31:14 GMT -6
U89I was released in 1990. The capsules and circuit are nothing like the vintage Neumann mics. Looks like the capsule is used in a number of budget mics in the Neumann line. From pics, it's more like a "medium diaphragm condenser" as the outer dimension is similar to the older mics but the tension ring is much wider making the skin itself smaller in diameter. Probably still a great mic though. Smaller diaphragms are much more time correct on sources and have much less frequency non-linearity for off-axis sources too. That's why SDC is almost always the choice for acoustics and overheads.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Apr 18, 2014 19:34:51 GMT -6
U89I was released in 1990. The capsules and circuit are nothing like the vintage Neumann mics. Looks like the capsule is used in a number of budget mics in the Neumann line. From pics, it's more like a "medium diaphragm condenser" as the outer dimension is similar to the older mics but the tension ring is much wider making the skin itself smaller in diameter. Probably still a great mic though. Smaller diaphragms are much more time correct on sources and have much less frequency non-linearity for off-axis sources too. That's why SDC is almost always the choice for acoustics and overheads. 1980 no? |
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 18, 2014 19:39:52 GMT -6
Yeah - you're probably right...this one was prob early 90's...This document said they were started in 1980, though... docu0127_Mictab_E_06-2011.pdf (147.7 KB) |
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Post by svart on Apr 18, 2014 19:42:01 GMT -6
I don't think so. Recordinghacks claims it was 1990. recordinghacks.com/microphones/Neumann/U-89Who knows. Sennheiser is still claiming that they never changed the original U87, but the later U87I is made differently and the capsule skins are different. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 21, 2014 15:06:13 GMT -6
I ended up flipping it. I liked it, but alas - not enough. I liked my Miktek C5 on acoustics better and never really thought there would be a time I would choose it on Vox over my modded CV4.
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Post by svart on Apr 21, 2014 18:47:40 GMT -6
Cool. Sometimes you just have to let things go unless you absolutely need them.
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Post by Hudsonic on Apr 27, 2014 12:22:38 GMT -6
U89I was released in 1990. The capsules and circuit are nothing like the vintage Neumann mics. Looks like the capsule is used in a number of budget mics in the Neumann line. From pics, it's more like a "medium diaphragm condenser" as the outer dimension is similar to the older mics but the tension ring is much wider making the skin itself smaller in diameter. Probably still a great mic though. Smaller diaphragms are much more time correct on sources and have much less frequency non-linearity for off-axis sources too. That's why SDC is almost always the choice for acoustics and overheads. Sorry but the core of the above posting is not right. U89 is solidly in the discrete no chips, old style circuit design philosophy. It is seen by Neumann as a premium Neumann mic with always a premium price. It's capsule and design build out have nothing to do with the budget mics. Uses a quality transformer. Mic was released in the early 80's. That's when I bought mine. |
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Post by svart on Apr 27, 2014 12:31:06 GMT -6
U89I was released in 1990. The capsules and circuit are nothing like the vintage Neumann mics. Looks like the capsule is used in a number of budget mics in the Neumann line. From pics, it's more like a "medium diaphragm condenser" as the outer dimension is similar to the older mics but the tension ring is much wider making the skin itself smaller in diameter. Probably still a great mic though. Smaller diaphragms are much more time correct on sources and have much less frequency non-linearity for off-axis sources too. That's why SDC is almost always the choice for acoustics and overheads. Sorry but the core of the above posting is not right. U89 is solidly in the discrete no chips, old style circuit design philosophy. It is seen by Neumann as a premium Neumann mic with always a premium price. It's capsule and design build out have nothing to do with the budget mics. Uses a quality transformer. Mic was released in the early 80's. That's when I bought mine. Where did i say it was full of ICs? Budget Neumann is still higher quality than must everything else, i didn't infer that it meant poor quality at all. Sorry if you took it that way. I've seen the circuit and I've seen the capsule in comparison. It's not the same as the u87 and certainly not the same as any other old designs. So i stand by my evaluation. |
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