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Post by mikec on Nov 10, 2020 12:33:13 GMT -6
Looks like UAD has added API summing as an option for Luna. I guess they can just take my money now.
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 10, 2020 12:35:05 GMT -6
Where did you see that?
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Post by Drew @ UA on Nov 10, 2020 12:36:23 GMT -6
Tune in today for our event with Jeff Balding featuring the new API Summing Extension for LUNA. www.uaudio.com/live
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 10, 2020 12:36:35 GMT -6
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Post by mikec on Nov 10, 2020 12:38:54 GMT -6
My day is complete....I discovered something new from UAD before kcatthedog.
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 10, 2020 12:45:55 GMT -6
Drew paid me with the API X, as a gimmee just for you !
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2020 13:09:13 GMT -6
Killer. Any hope for Windows?
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Post by phantom on Nov 10, 2020 13:23:16 GMT -6
API summing. Nice!
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Post by Quint on Nov 10, 2020 14:09:49 GMT -6
It would be fun to hear the UAD API summing up against the CAPI Sumbuss.
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Post by johneppstein on Nov 10, 2020 14:54:42 GMT -6
It would be fun to hear the UAD API summing up against the CAPI Sumbuss. Is this "API Summing" hardware or software?
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 10, 2020 15:15:33 GMT -6
Software, it’s a Luna extension, they just did a good demo which you can watch inside Luna as an artist session.
It certainly sounds good.
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Post by spindrift on Nov 10, 2020 15:30:03 GMT -6
So summing "emulation" in reality.
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Post by ragan on Nov 10, 2020 15:37:52 GMT -6
Though with Luna, unlike something like Slate VCC or Waves NLS or any of the other distortion plugs you stack on top of the DAW sum, the emulation is (potentially) integrated into the actual summing engine. I have no idea if this makes it better or different or whatever but it is a material difference.
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 10, 2020 15:47:20 GMT -6
An emulation or a software model of any piece of gear?
Proof is always in the pudding: 14 day demo.
Btw: 33609 update is free, you pay $149 for the new 2254 comp, as part of the package so half price if you own 33609.
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Post by Drew @ UA on Nov 10, 2020 16:31:55 GMT -6
Check out what Jeff Balding did with it.
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 10, 2020 16:37:38 GMT -6
This is the live video they just did, it’s just under an hour: a good watch.
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Post by javamad on Nov 10, 2020 17:45:28 GMT -6
I've been looking at LUNA a bit more this week as I have a new studio computer coming that will be able to run it properly (iMac 27" to replace my mid-2012 MBP .. finally!)
I was really digging the Neve Summing sound. Now with API as an extra choice this could very well become more of a possibility as a main DAW and even take me ITB .... I will certainly take a serious look at it.
I am still waiting for a couple of features to fall in Luna ... and yes .. I already sent feedback/feature requests :-)
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Post by Quint on Nov 10, 2020 17:57:31 GMT -6
I've been looking at LUNA a bit more this week as I have a new studio computer coming that will be able to run it properly (iMac 27" to replace my mid-2012 MBP .. finally!) I was really digging the Neve Summing sound. Now with API as an extra choice this could very well become more of a possibility as a main DAW and even take me ITB .... I will certainly take a serious look at it. I am still waiting for a couple of features to fall in Luna ... and yes .. I already sent feedback/feature requests :-) The hardware inserts thing is a big one. Well that, and Luna for Windows. Once they have both of those, I could see myself possibly switching over to use it as my main DAW. Even if I still ultimately went OTB for the mix, having Neve/API summing on busses during tracking could still potentially prove useful for providing more of a "finished sound" context during tracking.
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Nov 10, 2020 18:18:16 GMT -6
Tune in today for our event with Jeff Balding featuring the new API Summing Extension for LUNA. www.uaudio.com/liveI assume Vance will be doing a demo soon? He's an old API guy.
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Post by Drew @ UA on Nov 10, 2020 18:21:45 GMT -6
Tune in today for our event with Jeff Balding featuring the new API Summing Extension for LUNA. www.uaudio.com/liveI assume Vance will be doing a demo soon? He's an old API guy. Nothing on the schedule. Bookmark this page: www.uaudio.com/live
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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 10, 2020 19:14:00 GMT -6
Check out what Jeff Balding did with it. Jeff’s a cool dude. Man, I can’t wait to try all of this out...just tracked five songs today and will be mixing in the next week. Excellent timing!
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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 10, 2020 19:15:25 GMT -6
Tune in today for our event with Jeff Balding featuring the new API Summing Extension for LUNA. www.uaudio.com/liveI assume Vance will be doing a demo soon? He's an old API guy. Isn’t that an SSL in his room at Sputnik? Or maybe it’s Neve.
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Post by Drew @ UA on Nov 10, 2020 19:17:35 GMT -6
I assume Vance will be doing a demo soon? He's an old API guy. Isn’t that an SSL in his room at Sputnik? Or maybe it’s Neve. It is an SSL, but he's done a lot of work at Blackbird on the API.
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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 11, 2020 1:09:46 GMT -6
Just spent about an hour with 33609, 2254 and API Summing. Damn.
I dragged in files from the PTs session I just tracked. Created busses for Drums, Bass, AG, EG and Keys...put API Summing on each...started with the drums...I usually replace to get the kick thumping and supplement the snare...didn’t bother for this, but more on that later. Initially just solo’d you can hear the API maybe tighten the bottom and accentuate it as you crank the headroom knob. You also have the option of pushing the faders into the “summing”...that’s really where it performs like the real thing. Giving you more headroom and adding body and punch. All the differences between the Neve and API hold true IMO here. The Neve seems to be softer and have a bigger bottom...Of course the LoQ Neve option is killer to get harmonic distortion... but n the API, I would call it more “crunch.” Anyway, the API is airy-er and seems like it’s more punchy farther up the low end spectrum. I find the API more subtle, but after going back and forth on this particular tune, I preferred it over the Neve...and missed both when they were gone (and yes, I volume matched)...and it’s definitely a cumulative thing. But then adding in the 2254 on drum bus after that just brings the punch out like a MFer. I usually use the SSL on drumbus, but if that thing is smack, this thing brings roundness and punch with control...I will use the Zener or 176 in parallel if I need to mix in some whoosh and distortion, but the 2254 adds some of that if you need it. The 33609 with the Mix and SC hpf is just killer too. I’ve been using the Vari-Mu in M/S on the 2 Bus for a while now - I liked having the ability to use it for slight control and to create width...but I always felt like it was on the bright side. Dropped the 33609 in the VM spot, selected the first Jeff Balding preset...alowed the attack down a little and adjusted the threshold and its even more control and adding just a little more of that Neve punch while pulling out that room sound a bit and making it sound more alive. Now - I can still see places where I would need the VM and SSL and Zener and 176...but that’s the problem...they all do different things extremely well. So...I could see dropping some money. But to me, these are the “better-izers.” Oh - I also dropped the ATR 102 on the master...and even more glue and punchiness...Can you do all of these things in PT or Logic? Yeah (with other summing plugs)...but it’s the workflow and setup of Luna that just makes sense to me. I guess Cubase and Mixbus are setup like this on the mix page - like a real console - but for some reason Luna has made it more intuitive to me...I don’t know if it really would have occurred to me to try the ATR if I had been in PTs...but there’s the “tape” slot. I tried it and damn if it didn’t bring an positive audible difference to the table. It’s also all the gain staging ability - push the drum faders into the bus, into the the Summing with a headroom knob to adjust headroom then output into compressors with headroom and mix knobs then finally the Bus faders into either another bus or 2 Bus to repeat the process. Endless sonic possibilities. I like it.
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 11, 2020 3:51:49 GMT -6
Very cool: glad you are having a positive experience!
Could you post a screenshot of Luna console?
Thx.
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