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Post by mrholmes on Aug 28, 2021 14:30:41 GMT -6
Bought Molot GE and indeed it covers a lot of compression areas. Cool... More Color preset adjusted a bit (turn saturation down for one thing) did the VCL-373 thing for me with more depth and less goo.
Not sure, don't have the Molot long enough. I think it's like with hardware, some compressors are good for special tasks. I have never heard an LA2A plug in what the BRA La2 does.
IMO the saturation option on the Molot could cover more? Or do they change depending on the Delta Sigma modes?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2022 2:00:07 GMT -6
Fascinating post from the programmer about the original free version. The hard knee still behaves in such a way. |
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Post by yewtreemagic on Apr 30, 2022 12:17:31 GMT -6
Wow - thanks for this link Dan - hadn't seen it before, and it really helps understand the various Molot modes.
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Post by OtisGreying on May 1, 2022 20:52:45 GMT -6
Been trying to use MOLOT on insane in parallel for some vocal tracks and avoiding phasing is seemingly impossible, Ableton doesn't properly communicate to get the delay compensation right.. anyone else experience anything similar or has had success using it in parallel?
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2022 21:56:59 GMT -6
Been trying to use MOLOT on insane in parallel for some vocal tracks and avoiding phasing is seemingly impossible, Ableton doesn't properly communicate to get the delay compensation right.. anyone else experience anything similar or has had success using it in parallel? Hi Otis,
Use the parallel knob or turn off saturation for Molot GE. Saturation has a low end roll off thus phase shift.
FYI at 44.1 khz, Precise is 184 samples of latency and Insane is 187 samples. If Ableton doesn't add the additional 3 samples of PDC when you switch, maybe you can save insane as the default setting and add another instance to get your DAW to compensate automatically
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Post by OtisGreying on May 1, 2022 22:17:26 GMT -6
Been trying to use MOLOT on insane in parallel for some vocal tracks and avoiding phasing is seemingly impossible, Ableton doesn't properly communicate to get the delay compensation right.. anyone else experience anything similar or has had success using it in parallel? Hi Otis,
Use the parallel knob or turn off saturation for Molot GE. Saturation has a low end roll off thus phase shift.
FYI at 44.1 khz, Precise is 184 samples of latency and Insane is 187 samples. If Ableton doesn't add the additional 3 samples of PDC when you switch, maybe you can save insane as the default setting and add another instance to get your DAW to compensate automatically
Dan
Tried turning off the saturate knob - but no dice. It doesn't phase in precise mode. It seems the plugins just not communicating the change in latency properly to Ableton or vice versa so it only works properly when the standard at-start latency in Precise mode is used. The wet knob is nice but I don't want the plug on the main vocal send. - what exactly does insane mode do?
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2022 22:35:56 GMT -6
Hi Otis,
Use the parallel knob or turn off saturation for Molot GE. Saturation has a low end roll off thus phase shift.
FYI at 44.1 khz, Precise is 184 samples of latency and Insane is 187 samples. If Ableton doesn't add the additional 3 samples of PDC when you switch, maybe you can save insane as the default setting and add another instance to get your DAW to compensate automatically
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Tried turning off the saturate knob - but no dice. It doesn't phase in precise mode. It seems the plugins just not communicating the change in latency properly to Ableton or vice versa so it only works properly when the standard at-start latency in Precise mode is used - what exactly does insane mode do? Insane oversamples the sidechain even further for better dual release and a working fast attack and cleaner saturation and limiter. Ableton has had issues with PDC before among other things. Save insane as the default preset in Molot then reload it. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2023 14:22:39 GMT -6
Okay so this thing is so complex, I keep finding new stuff. realgearonline.com/thread/13331/qucik-plug-dan-stressing-molot has more stuff Smooth Oppressor is very Distressor like. Duh. Cool on drum busses. Radiate appears to be an SSL Bus on 2:1 auto. Maybe speed up the initial release and crank the secondary release all the way to get it closer. Siberian Sunset seems to be very much like a Smart C2 on the 3:1 ratio and auto with mid attack that are more sigmoid to let the transients pass through like a Distressor or 1178. You can then limit these for a very "red" sounding unit that's way dirtier than a Smart and maybe crank up the attack percentage to level it more. But unlike anything based on an SSL Bus, Molot briefly expands briefly on the hardest knees like a dbx 160. So you can really speed up the attack to just slower than a distressor and have the hits pass through, and then limit it after to smash them down. Opto is an LA2A. Here's a dirty trick on bass. Soften up the knee a lot, make it more like a varimu than an opto. Make the saturation dynamic and lower it because it's on 11 or something and it can get super fuzzy. Now make the attack the rate of overall modulation and leveling you want for the whole performance. Then adjust the alpha-sigma knob to let how much of the individual note plucks you want to come through. So you're controlling the speed of the leveling by the attack and the notes coming through and not getting squashed themselves by the shape of the attack curve. Then if any are too prominent, just engage the limiter, which is a soft clipper that sounds big and warm. Also filter Molot GE if you use the Saturation or Limiter. It can produce DC offset from the half-wave saturation or clipping asymmetric content. |
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Post by mcirish on Nov 6, 2023 14:38:59 GMT -6
The complexity of using it is exactly why I don't use it more often. I bought it but I end up using 1176, SSL, Varimu and LA2A emulations far more, just because I can get things done much quicker. I may be in the minority, but I like things to be one-trick ponys. If it doesn't do what I want, I try something else. When a compressor can do most everything, I don't end up reaching for it. I know it's a great compressor. I just can't wrap my head around it.
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Post by jaba on Nov 6, 2023 15:20:16 GMT -6
The complexity of using it is exactly why I don't use it more often. I bought it but I end up using 1176, SSL, Varimu and LA2A emulations far more, just because I can get things done much quicker. I may be in the minority, but I like things to be one-trick ponys. If it doesn't do what I want, I try something else. When a compressor can do most everything, I don't end up reaching for it. I know it's a great compressor. I just can't wrap my head around it. I hear you on simple tools that do a certain something really well (I'm a big LA3A fan). But I've grown to love MolotGE and use it all over the place. My advice is to just use the standard controls (say, threshold/ attack/ release/ ratio) and ignore the other stuff. The other stuff is really cool though (I almost always adjust the Input at some point) so it's worth playing around with them if you have the time or inclination. The presets can be good places to start but it might take a bit of playing around to find which ones work for you in which scenarios. |
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Post by ab101 on Nov 6, 2023 15:55:23 GMT -6
I am not good with complex plugins but I thought it was real easy to get a great sound out of the Molot GE. And it sounds smooth with nice color. I thought the softube cl1b II, for example, was much more difficult to dial in, though I eventually figured that one out too.
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