MOLOT GE

AudioDeluxe.com has the whole TDR catalog for 120 euros. Wondering if I should take the plunge. What's Molot GE's best applications? Is the saturation color nice?

The original was best as a drum envelope shaper and two stage vocal nuke, smashing down peaks and brutally leveling while giving weak vocalists good body of voice. Molot GE has much more uses but still has the awesome sigma mode. It should be good on everything with the feedback compression, dual time constants, unaliased sidechain, and adjustable saturation.

Slick EQ GE is awesome. Kotelnikov is awesome as mastering tool. Limit 6 GE is awesome. De-edger is awesome. Seriously all their plugs are some of the best around. You're going to make money with these guys. They will save you time and make you money unlike analog emulations. Slick EQ GE, Slick EQ M, and Limiter 6 GE have made me some scrilla.

I didn’t even use Molot 1 as a send for wimpy metal growlers. EQ, tube whatever, Vocal preset 1, vocal preset 2, bam bam. Print it. Done. Distorted but cool and way better than their comped tracks.

Slick eq is general use non parametric eq with cool saturation and varying output stages and limit 6 ge is an ultra clean and easy to use final mastering limiter.

Cool plug. I had the old one over 10 years ago and it was a go-to for me in my early days of free plugins. Maybe I'll dive back in with the new one.

The flavor is very brown and shoves things into the background. The og Molot was better on snare. This is better at making drum buses sit down.

I finally got this to beat the original on snare. It’s definitely a finicky beast.

Yes, maybe dan could start a plugin thread or something. I want to hear deeper dives of discussion into some of these great plugs. dan do you have a go-to digital EQ? Have you tried Crave EQ? Or a different one? I know there are quite a few out there right now vying for that main use position, the obvious one being Pro Q3.

That's very interesting.  Does the Slick EQ seem really broad to you?  The curves on the TDR stuff seem a lot more broad and subtle than what I want to call "regular" EQ curves that I'm used to seeing in most other EQ's.

Thanks that's good info.  Somehow this wasn't clear to me even after months of randomly gazing at the public website.  I had assumed that the GE added "cool stuff you don't necessarily need" but it's sounding more essential now.

To beat the og Molot and Kush Silika (basically a cool clipper attached to a standard boring digital compressor) on snare with Molot GE:
1. Eq it first. Make it sound right.
2. Deresonate that thing. The dynamic Molot eq can help but seriously you need to do this manually. If you don’t eq it, your drum is going to sound like shit because Molot is so powerful.
3. Level it with an opto comp, manual automation, whatever compressor you like, or Sound Radix Drum leveler if you want to think too hard. Even Molot opto preset. This is very important. You need to raise up the ghost notes but still keep them
beneath the beat for Molot to hammer down the sustain of every hit slightly because it’s going to change the character of the drum hits.
4. Molot GE settings: Insane mode on, change meter to fast to emulate ppm and not vu, Side chain high pass on, Relaxed on or off later, feed back off, saturation on with dynamics on, mid eq on/off to taste dynamics checked of course.
5. Attack set to 10ms or less (the preset) for sampled drums. 20-30ish ms for good drummer, 40-60ms for limpwristed extreme “metal” loser who can’t hit and practices on a midi kit.
6. Release set to 100ms to 60/bpm of the snare.
7. Sigma 75-100% to taste
8. Play with input and threshold to catch every hit including the ghost notes with half a db to 3 db of gain reduction. You might have to play with relaxed mode for shorter or longer release times. This is why bringing up the ghost notes was important. You might have to make the needle float further down the meter, say between 2-3 db or 5-6 dB of gr.
9. Compensate for metered gain reduction with makeup gain. Compensate for any input gain by attenuating the clean output gain.
10.  Congratulations! You’ve naturalized lame samples, turned a good drummer into a 1970s caveman beast, and made your crappy “technical” metal drummer who can’t play without triggers ping like a failing car engine because those guys suck.

Warning to non-members reading this: If your monitors have no detail or wildly inaccurate dynamics from home theater chip amps, tiny woofers, or an always active limiter, you’re not going to hear it when level matched. This is often under 1-2 db of compression (compression is not the metered gain reduction) with a great performance.

There's great fun to be had in Molot GE abusing the input, saturation, secondary release, and relaxed functions. The input is linear like a FET comp rather than logarithmic like a VCA so it sounds totally different than using the threshold. I recommend you set it to insane mode to not turn it into a trashy clipper if you want to have some fun. Insane mode is 3d and analog while the stock Precise is a bit Kush like if you insist on pushing things. This is definitely a weird, unique, and very flexible plugin.

Bought Molot GE and indeed it covers a lot of compression areas. Cool...