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Post by mulmany on Apr 5, 2014 20:52:58 GMT -6
Title says it all. I saw they released a new version, is it any good. I kinda like the layout, but makes me wonder how well it really feels to use.
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Post by jeromemason on Apr 5, 2014 20:55:49 GMT -6
I used it for a little bit.... just could never get used to it. It did sound great, and a few cats I know use it like a summing mixer and have had some really good results. I spoke with Tim at Harrison a lot when I was trying to put it in play, gave some opinions on new features, workflow. Be interesting to see if any of that made it into the new version. The tape sat on the busses was really good, and I wanted to use it, just couldn't move fast enough with it.
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Post by mulmany on Apr 5, 2014 21:27:01 GMT -6
I used it for a little bit.... just could never get used to it. It did sound great, and a few cats I know use it like a summing mixer and have had some really good results. I spoke with Tim at Harrison a lot when I was trying to put it in play, gave some opinions on new features, workflow. Be interesting to see if any of that made it into the new version. The tape sat on the busses was really good, and I wanted to use it, just couldn't move fast enough with it. I like that it is less visual. Thinking of trying it out and seeing how it goes. Not sure I could handle the Edit window, but some of the features do make sense. I fear the learning curve. 10 years of PT is a long time to try and retrain! |
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Post by jeromemason on Apr 5, 2014 21:32:55 GMT -6
I used it for a little bit.... just could never get used to it. It did sound great, and a few cats I know use it like a summing mixer and have had some really good results. I spoke with Tim at Harrison a lot when I was trying to put it in play, gave some opinions on new features, workflow. Be interesting to see if any of that made it into the new version. The tape sat on the busses was really good, and I wanted to use it, just couldn't move fast enough with it. I like that it is less visual. Thinking of trying it out and seeing how it goes. Not sure I could handle the Edit window, but some of the features do make sense. I fear the learning curve. 10 years of PT is a long time to try and retrain! Well from what I've heard, if you do your mix in PT, and then use the Jack and route everything out of PT into Mixbus it's accomplishing a lot of the same thing of mixing in it exclusively, at least that's what I've been told. I never tried it so I couldn't tell you how, but I know a few people that do it, or did at least, not sure if they still are, but liked what it was doing. Honestly with things like VTM and the Ampex from UAD you can do basically the same thing in PT. Just make 8 busses with tape emu on them and route your groups to those busses. But if you want to take a swing at Mixbus go for it man, you might pick it up and run with it, I have just been in PT for so long I can't afford to put time into learning a new DAW. |
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Post by mulmany on Apr 5, 2014 21:45:39 GMT -6
Yeah, Just watched the video of how that works. Kinda clunky but cool. I have been exploring the DAW waters. Trying to see if anything catches my fancy enough to pull me away from my comfort of PT.
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Post by keymod on Apr 6, 2014 5:46:52 GMT -6
I had trouble getting it to run on my Windows 7 32bit computer. It would always freeze when I switched to Mixer view. I just put it on a 64bit Windows 7 upgrade and it seems a lot better - no freezes, and I was actually able to import some wav files into a test project. It sounds good, has good features. I really want to like it more, but I already have Cubase and Samplitude without even enough time to devote to them, so Mixbus is not a priority considering another learning curve
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2014 14:41:51 GMT -6
I am using it occasionally. If i want the Harrison 32 sound, if i need fast results on not so easy material, pop-rock-guitar stuff more, for electronic stuff i mostly still use Sonar which has pretty usable modes for Neve/SSL/TridentA emu ob channels and busses.
Results can be achieved fast because of the limitations of the good sounding eq's and filters, easy gainstaging, natural feeling saturation, K-Meters and the very simple to use and in my opinion great channel and bus compressors/Limiters/Levelers. It is nearly as fast as mixing with a real-world console, because you intuitively begin to work with the same workflow. Limitations can be a good thing. E.g. limit on busses. You automatically come back to best practices that were established for a reason long before the times of DAWs. Great for rock/pop/country/blues/soul/funk whatever.
You are forced to no overcomplicate projects - which is a good thing!
OK, you have to get used to ardour, but it makes a lot of sense the way it works e.g. at editing, and has a lot of useful functions that are easy to find in the gui.
Sometimes i have problems exporting the mix. Then i print a sum to a stereo track, and export only this, works flawlessly for me, no prob.
I had it working on Win7, 8, 8.1.
No version-specific problems so far.
BTW, last version update was 2.4 which was in end of November....
Waiting for the 3.0 which will be based on ardour3. Then it will not only be an audio WS but also integrate midi tracks.
Another word on midi - surface control support is limited by OS. Works best in linux, next best in MacOS, not (worst) on Windows.
This will hopefully change in 3.0 as well.
Great tool that i got in full version for a very silly low price (~30 Euros at a online sale occasion).
And if i remember, it licenses it for 2(!) machines with one license. (Hope i don't got this wrong, i have it only on one cpu.)
Registration/Licensing is dead easy and safe, no dongle no online validation hassle, nothing. Absolutely hassle-free for re-install etc., just keep a copy of the personalized key file safe.
Sound - great.
BR,
Martin
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Post by mulmany on Apr 6, 2014 16:01:24 GMT -6
I am using it occasionally. If i want the Harrison 32 sound, if i need fast results on not so easy material, pop-rock-guitar stuff more, for electronic stuff i mostly still use Sonar which has pretty usable modes for Neve/SSL/TridentA emu ob channels and busses. Results can be achieved fast because of the limitations of the good sounding eq's and filters, easy gainstaging, natural feeling saturation, K-Meters and the very simple to use and in my opinion great channel and bus compressors/Limiters/Levelers. It is nearly as fast as mixing with a real-world console, because you intuitively begin to work with the same workflow. Limitations can be a good thing. E.g. limit on busses. You automatically come back to best practices that were established for a reason long before the times of DAWs. Great for rock/pop/country/blues/soul/funk whatever. You are forced to no overcomplicate projects - which is a good thing! OK, you have to get used to ardour, but it makes a lot of sense the way it works e.g. at editing, and has a lot of useful functions that are easy to find in the gui. Sometimes i have problems exporting the mix. Then i print a sum to a stereo track, and export only this, works flawlessly for me, no prob. I had it working on Win7, 8, 8.1. No version-specific problems so far. BTW, last version update was 2.4 which was in end of November.... Waiting for the 3.0 which will be based on ardour3. Then it will not only be an audio WS but also integrate midi tracks. Another word on midi - surface control support is limited by OS. Works best in linux, next best in MacOS, not (worst) on Windows. This will hopefully change in 3.0 as well. Great tool that i got in full version for a very silly low price (~30 Euros at a online sale occasion). And if i remember, it licenses it for 2(!) machines with one license. (Hope i don't got this wrong, i have it only on one cpu.) Registration/Licensing is dead easy and safe, no dongle no online validation hassle, nothing. Absolutely hassle-free for re-install etc., just keep a copy of the personalized key file safe. Sound - great. BR, Martin Thanks Martin. I mostly do rock and folk so seems like a good fit. I also want to impose some limitations. Last album I mixed I ended up treating PT more like a analog desk then a limitless DAW. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2014 16:45:47 GMT -6
Patrick,
you might be also fine, doing alot of editing, elastic audio, arranging, whatever, some of the effect processing in your favourite system, then import the tracks and do the "real" mixing stuff.
I also see it more as a virtual harrison console that really reacts and feels like analog (e.g. regarding saturation, headroom and clipping), than a DAW, this is it's strength...
But - it *does* have a special sound. If you don't like the harrison 32 sound, well, it will most probably be not for you.
But if you do, you might find it sounds huge.
I always thought folk guys are more api or neve fixated, but well - there is absolutely no rule for this, especially if it get's rock influenced.
Best regards,
Martin
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