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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 12, 2020 19:24:36 GMT -6
Talk about a good neat Bourbon. Finished in port barrels. Has a hint of cherry. Delicious  |
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Post by johneppstein on Sept 12, 2020 19:35:14 GMT -6
Talk about a good neat Bourbon. Finished in port barrels. Has a hint of cherry. Delicious I could be wrong, but I don't believe that's a real Bourbon. There are rather strict rules governing what can be sold under the "Bourbon" label and I don't believe that includes rye as a grain. I believe that "Rye Whiskey" is its own category.
I like ryes, btw, better than most real bourbons, which are a tad sweet for me.
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 12, 2020 19:44:05 GMT -6
REGULATIONS REGARDING BOURBON PRODUCTION:
Must be made inside of the United States. One of the most common misconceptions about Bourbon is that it needs to made in Bourbon County.
Must be 51% corn and 49% of the rest of it can be other grains.
Needs to be aged in brand new charred American Oak Barrels.
Can never be distilled to an ABV higher than 80%
When it enters the barrel for aging, it can not be higher in proof than 62.5% ABV
Don’t forget that 49% can be other grains, with the most common types being Rye and Wheat. As a general rule of thumb Rye adds spice, Wheat adds sweetness and Corn brings alcohol.
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 12, 2020 19:46:05 GMT -6
But yes, it’s a Rye and I agree I tend to like Ryes when making drinks and Bourbons when drinking neat.
This one, though, is pretty sweet...wouldn’t mix this with anything because it would probably be too sweet.
Isn’t Pappy wheated?
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Post by Ward-io-Scape on Sept 13, 2020 5:21:40 GMT -6
What about barley? Which category does fit in, when it comes to mash? Some distillers use a barley mash for whiskey and vodka. I can't remember which whiskey it was now, but I read somewhere that one used 50% corn, 25% rye and 25% barley. Would that also be considered a rye whiskey?
How does this one compare to Dickle's Rye?
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Post by jeremygillespie on Sept 13, 2020 9:13:25 GMT -6
But yes, it’s a Rye and I agree I tend to like Ryes when making drinks and Bourbons when drinking neat. This one, though, is pretty sweet...wouldn’t mix this with anything because it would probably be too sweet. Isn’t Pappy wheated? Pappy, Weller, and Old Fitz are the main wheated ones. |
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Post by Ward-io-Scape on Sept 13, 2020 9:27:11 GMT -6
Sorry . . . Dickel's - my bad
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Post by Ward-io-Scape on Sept 13, 2020 12:30:46 GMT -6
Got it
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 13, 2020 13:08:59 GMT -6
Dickel is a Tennessee whiskey. I believe the difference is that TN whiskey is charcoal filtered. Actually smoother...but I still prefer Bourbon or Rye. There’s a great new TN Whiskey called Greenbrier - like $29 a bottle.
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 13, 2020 13:10:11 GMT -6
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Post by Ward-io-Scape on Sept 13, 2020 14:56:02 GMT -6
Well this glass of Hayden's dark rye is spicey and not a quick drink.  |
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 13, 2020 15:25:30 GMT -6
Well this glass of Hayden's dark rye is spicey and not a quick drink. You already buy some? You might be more used to TN whiskey which is “smoother.” Bourbon a little spicier and rye more than that. |
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Post by Ward-io-Scape on Sept 13, 2020 19:28:31 GMT -6
Well this glass of Hayden's dark rye is spicey and not a quick drink. You already buy some? You might be more used to TN whiskey which is “smoother.” Bourbon a little spicier and rye more than that. Not a fan of Tennessee whiskey- too much corn syrup. This is my first deviation from bourbon in a long long time. Washed the second Dark Rye down with a shot of Buffalo trace. Got all warm like they were becoming friends in my belly. LOL |
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 18, 2020 21:11:25 GMT -6
More of this tonight. I’m smitten.
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Post by yotonic on Sept 18, 2020 21:45:20 GMT -6
I'm a big fan of the Bulleit Rye.  |
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Post by Ward-io-Scape on Sept 19, 2020 14:21:56 GMT -6
HA!! I'm about to pour me some Bulleit before I have to do a mix revision on a power-punk-pop song for a band. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2020 12:44:23 GMT -6
I'm a big fan of the Bulleit Rye. My go-to if I'm not trying to spend a bunch. I have some sitting on my counter as I type this. Woodford rye is probably my favorite. The shops where I am almost never have it in stock though. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 24, 2020 12:58:46 GMT -6
I am currently nursing a tremendous hangover.
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Post by Ward-io-Scape on Sept 25, 2020 8:16:49 GMT -6
I've really gotten into putting some sherry in my whiskey, on-topic as this includes Haydens
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Post by jacobamerritt on Sept 29, 2020 11:16:55 GMT -6
I've really gotten into putting some sherry in my whiskey, on-topic as this includes Haydens In that case you might LOVE the dark rye... Its not finished in Port barrels which is generally more typical for 'finished' whiskeys. Johnkenn This one actually adds some California port to the mix. My wife and I drink Basil Haydens dark rye out of a flask every year when we go Christmas tree shopping  |
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Post by jacobamerritt on Sept 29, 2020 11:20:58 GMT -6
But yes, it’s a Rye and I agree I tend to like Ryes when making drinks and Bourbons when drinking neat. This one, though, is pretty sweet...wouldn’t mix this with anything because it would probably be too sweet. Isn’t Pappy wheated? Pappy, Weller, and Old Fitz are the main wheated ones. Larceny is also an EXCELLENT wheated bourbon thats very easy to find, usually for around $20 as well (Heaven Hill product). 1792 makes a Sweet Wheat that is very limited but one of the better wheateds Ive had. |
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Post by jacobamerritt on Sept 29, 2020 11:49:39 GMT -6
Johnkenn if you like this one, definitely seek out Isaac Bowman Port Finish. Its from a distillery owned by the folks who make Buffalo Trace, Blantons, Pappy, Weller, etc. - Its a bourbon finished in port barrels. One of my favorites as well. Less overtly sweet and fruit forward being finished in barrels vs. having port added like Dark Rye.
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 29, 2020 12:54:12 GMT -6
Johnkenn if you like this one, definitely seek out Isaac Bowman Port Finish. Its from a distillery owned by the folks who make Buffalo Trace, Blantons, Pappy, Weller, etc. - Its a bourbon finished in port barrels. One of my favorites as well. Less overtly sweet and fruit forward being finished in barrels vs. having port added like Dark Rye. Ooo interesting |
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 29, 2020 18:08:41 GMT -6
Johnkenn if you like this one, definitely seek out Isaac Bowman Port Finish. Its from a distillery owned by the folks who make Buffalo Trace, Blantons, Pappy, Weller, etc. - Its a bourbon finished in port barrels. One of my favorites as well. Less overtly sweet and fruit forward being finished in barrels vs. having port added like Dark Rye. Just bought a bottle of the Bowman. Btw - I totally forgot the Larceny was so cheap. |
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Post by jacobamerritt on Sept 29, 2020 18:27:49 GMT -6
Just bought a bottle of the Bowman. Btw - I totally forgot the Larceny was so cheap. Oh dang! Theres also a traditional bourbon (Bowman Brothers) and a Single Barrel (John J Bowman) if I recall correctly. The Isaac Bowman is a little harder to find sometimes, glad you found it! I really hope you enjoy it, so I don't have to lie awake at night knowing I wasted your money  |
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