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Post by Ned Ward on Aug 17, 2020 14:29:47 GMT -6
I'm not sure I understand the concern - The Foxx units have been out of production for 40 years and had a sound all their own; same with the Univox Super Fuzz. There are plenty of new designs, but I appreciate that there are new lower-priced alternatives than finding the exhorbitantly priced originals that may be in poor condition, etc. I owned a Univox Super Fun as a kid and foolishly sold it for a MXR Distortion II (the Univox wasn't very good as a distortion pedal but what did I know) and now old ones are $5-600, with that rubber pedal cover usually disintegrates... Would rather buy a reissue... Also on the Foxx Tone Machines, the flocking (name for the process to attach the fuzz to the enclosure, same process as GI Joe hair or on inflatable beds) tends to fall off as the glue dries out, and then you have those tiny 1/8" fibers getting into everywhere... I'm not concerned. I just think the market for fuzz pedals and their clones is so far beyond the point of over-saturation that this is pointless and not interesting at all really. Could say the same thing about Neumann mic clones, or 1073/1083 clones, but I don't see anyone getting tired of it... As a guitarist who likes pedals, I find that not all pedals, and especially fuzz pedals, are created or sound equal.
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Post by kcatthedog on Aug 17, 2020 14:30:55 GMT -6
ok, but if intended and true, wouldn’t the producers be out of phase with market demand?
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Post by Guitar on Aug 17, 2020 15:05:18 GMT -6
I love fuzz pedals. I want to hear this fuzz pedal. It's priced right also.
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Post by Quint on Aug 17, 2020 15:24:31 GMT -6
I'd be interested to try these. I wish they were a little smaller though. Pedal board space, just like rack space, is always limited.
Considering that a ton of fuzz pedals will fit in an approximately 3"x5" space, I sometimes wonder why other fuzz pedals are as big as they are. There's not a whole lot going on in there...
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Post by Guitar on Aug 17, 2020 15:32:53 GMT -6
I'd be interested to try these. I wish they were a little smaller though. Pedal board space, just like rack space, is always limited. Considering that a ton of fuzz pedals will fit in an approximately 3"x5" space, I sometimes wonder why other fuzz pedals are as big as they are. There's not a whole lot going on in there... I hear you on that 10-4. My pedalboard is very precious real estate, and probably not big enough, but it's what fits in the room. What I personally do is keep big versions of the really good ones, as well as "micro" versions of same or similar things that fit on the usable board. I know it sounds kind of insane but I'm a guitar-head and I build a lot of pedals. To give an example, you just gotta have the big fuzz face. I had to have it. Some kind of pedal fetish or something. Probably my best pedal of all time. It hardly ever gets used though, since the micro one sounds 98% the same, and literally 1/10 of the size. Sort of practical vs cool. Sometimes cool wins, sometimes practical wins. I guess Warm went for "cool" which I think was the right choice.
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Post by sirthought on Aug 18, 2020 1:32:56 GMT -6
Not talking the octave sound, but the normal fuzz tone seemed a bit similar to the Big Muff Op Amp version. I was picking up some Smashing Pumpkins vibes.
I'm really surprised they copied the old layout design. The knobs and switch placement makes no sense for using with other things on a pedal board. I know not everyone uses one, but Warm has to think a good portion of folks who like fuzz have boards.
I'm a big phaser fan, and this one seems to have some pretty cool options.
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Post by lpedrum on Aug 18, 2020 1:44:25 GMT -6
Not talking the octave sound, but the normal fuzz tone seemed a bit similar to the Big Muff Op Amp version. I was picking up some Smashing Pumpkins vibes. I'm really surprised they copied the old layout design. The knobs and switch placement makes no sense for using with other things on a pedal board. I know not everyone uses one, but Warm has to think a good portion of folks who like fuzz have boards. I'm a big phaser fan, and this one seems to have some pretty cool options. There are dozens of new larger/odd sized pedals coming out these days. I think many pedal designers are bored with the old Boss/MXR footprint and want to create a distinctive enclosure.
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Post by nick8801 on Aug 18, 2020 7:40:00 GMT -6
Getting the fuzz. On a side note, it’s been pretty incredible to watch Warm go from a very small diy, one man operation, to the major pro audio company they are today. Bryce is a good dude, and I enjoy supporting them when I can.
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Post by kcatthedog on Aug 18, 2020 7:53:27 GMT -6
Their new headquarters and recording studio is on track to open in a couple of months I think.
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Post by Ward on Aug 18, 2020 7:57:12 GMT -6
Any truth to the rumor I just started about WA coming out with a Yamaha NS10M clone and a host of consumer electronics items?
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Post by Quint on Aug 18, 2020 7:58:53 GMT -6
Their new headquarters and recording studio is on track to open in a couple of months I think. Didn't know that they were doing that. I guess it'll still be at the same location in Liberty Hill? One of these days, when things get back to normal, I'd be interested in seeing it. It's right outside of Austin. Which got me to thinking about what else is located in the Austin area. Warm FMR RND Wunder Shadow Hills I feel like I'm forgetting others.
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Post by Guitar on Aug 18, 2020 8:39:26 GMT -6
Their new headquarters and recording studio is on track to open in a couple of months I think. Didn't know that they were doing that. I guess it'll still be at the same location in Liberty Hill? One of these days, when things get back to normal, I'd be interested in seeing it. It's right outside of Austin. Which got me to thinking about what else is located in the Austin area. Warm FMR RND Wunder I feel like I'm forgetting others. You're forgetting about the "only one that matters" which is Weird Audio of course. Maybe Tommy can come in this thread and "set us all straight" about anything and everything. Maybe he's benching a few more pounds than before.
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Post by Quint on Aug 18, 2020 9:48:35 GMT -6
Didn't know that they were doing that. I guess it'll still be at the same location in Liberty Hill? One of these days, when things get back to normal, I'd be interested in seeing it. It's right outside of Austin. Which got me to thinking about what else is located in the Austin area. Warm FMR RND Wunder I feel like I'm forgetting others. You're forgetting about the "only one that matters" which is Weird Audio of course. Maybe Tommy can come in this thread and "set us all straight" about anything and everything. Maybe he's benching a few more pounds than before. Yeah, I left that one off the list on purpose...
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Post by Quint on Aug 18, 2020 9:52:59 GMT -6
I happened to go do some reading on these new stomp boxes and noticed that Warm also has new Omni capsules for the WA-84s as well as a new WA-Classic.
Either I wasn't paying attention, or these just simply have flown under the radar. Anybody tried any of these or heard anything?
The Omni caps seem like an obvious thing to offer, but I'm confused by WA-Classic. They bill it as "more affordable", but it's only $50 cheaper than the WA-87, so I'm not sure where that extra corner got cut or what would make that worth it for such a small reduction in price.
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Post by kcatthedog on Aug 18, 2020 11:10:54 GMT -6
Ya, they released them recently but I haven’t seen any reviews. Omni would be nice for flatter response, but would depend on your room ambience?
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Post by Ned Ward on Aug 18, 2020 14:33:55 GMT -6
Not talking the octave sound, but the normal fuzz tone seemed a bit similar to the Big Muff Op Amp version. I was picking up some Smashing Pumpkins vibes. I'm really surprised they copied the old layout design. The knobs and switch placement makes no sense for using with other things on a pedal board. I know not everyone uses one, but Warm has to think a good portion of folks who like fuzz have boards. I'm a big phaser fan, and this one seems to have some pretty cool options. There are dozens of new larger/odd sized pedals coming out these days. I think many pedal designers are bored with the old Boss/MXR footprint and want to create a distinctive enclosure. Not surprised at all either - Warm has replicated the look of the products they're reproducing, so it makes sense to replicate the Foxx Tone and Jet Phaser in the enclosures and layout they came in. There are other pedal people who are making versions of classic pedals but in smaller boxes. I do like smaller versions of some pedals where the tone isn't compromised (like the Ibanez AD9 Mini Analog Delay), or it's a new way of thinking. My Keeley Electric Mudd is his take on a Univox Super Fuzz, but with 6 transistors and more control - and way more crazy fuzz, all in a regular MXR-shaped pedal vs. the original giant. Also true bypass, has a 9V DC input, and 1/3 the price of the original...
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Post by johneppstein on Aug 18, 2020 15:39:33 GMT -6
I'm interested on the phaser. Much more than the Fuzz. Yeah. For years I've wondered why nobody brought out a clone of the original ADA Jet Phase. They need to do the Flanger as well....
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Post by johneppstein on Aug 18, 2020 15:42:53 GMT -6
I'm not sure I understand the concern - The Foxx units have been out of production for 40 years and had a sound all their own; same with the Univox Super Fuzz. There are plenty of new designs, but I appreciate that there are new lower-priced alternatives than finding the exhorbitantly priced originals that may be in poor condition, etc. I owned a Univox Super Fun as a kid and foolishly sold it for a MXR Distortion II (the Univox wasn't very good as a distortion pedal but what did I know) and now old ones are $5-600, with that rubber pedal cover usually disintegrates... Would rather buy a reissue... Also on the Foxx Tone Machines, the flocking (name for the process to attach the fuzz to the enclosure, same process as GI Joe hair or on inflatable beds) tends to fall off as the glue dries out, and then you have those tiny 1/8" fibers getting into everywhere... I'm not concerned. I just think the market for fuzz pedals and their clones is so far beyond the point of over-saturation that this is pointless and not interesting at all really. Nobody, and i mean NOBODY has ever done a commercial reproduction of the ADA Jet phase before, and there is no other phaser like the Jet Phase.
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Post by kcatthedog on Aug 18, 2020 16:03:12 GMT -6
I’m digging the phaser a lot, hope they do the flange next !
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Post by lpedrum on Aug 18, 2020 16:13:42 GMT -6
I'm interested on the phaser. Much more than the Fuzz. Yeah. For years I've wondered why nobody brought out a clone of the original ADA Jet Phase. They need to do the Flanger as well.... ADA still makes the Flanger. I bought one last year.
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Post by LesC on Aug 18, 2020 17:12:10 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2020 8:35:56 GMT -6
I'm not concerned. I just think the market for fuzz pedals and their clones is so far beyond the point of over-saturation that this is pointless and not interesting at all really. Nobody, and i mean NOBODY has ever done a commercial reproduction of the ADA Jet phase before, and there is no other phaser like the Jet Phase. "...fuzz pedals..."
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Post by mattbroiler on Aug 19, 2020 12:10:54 GMT -6
adaamps.com/store/products.htmlIt looks as though a number of the ADA reissue units are in stock including the Final Phase...nice I love the old 256i and 1280 delay racks units they are always part of my guitar chain
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Post by jacobamerritt on Aug 19, 2020 12:52:29 GMT -6
Does anyone wonder if perhaps Warm is getting a bit too diversified in the type of gear they make? I wonder what the end game is for them. They seem to be expanding really quickly. They are up to almost 30 products now. QC seems to be a lingering issue that could be exacerbated by more products to manage, but maybe they've sorted it out and Im out of the loop?
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Post by Guitar on Aug 19, 2020 14:19:09 GMT -6
Were warm audio products ever really that impressive in the first place? I don't see why they shouldn't expand, they obviously have the means to do so.
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