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Post by Blackdawg on Jun 11, 2020 18:06:06 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2020 18:43:44 GMT -6
I wish I bought a space echo when they were still $400.
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Post by allbuttonmode on Jun 12, 2020 2:57:24 GMT -6
I can wholeheartedly recommend the Echofix tape delay. I have 2 units set up for stereo delay. Primarily used for vocals.
Very well built, by a company who have been servicing and offering spare parts for the old units for 10 years, or so.
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Post by Blackdawg on Jun 12, 2020 15:18:22 GMT -6
I can wholeheartedly recommend the Echofix tape delay. I have 2 units set up for stereo delay. Primarily used for vocals. Very well built, by a company who have been servicing and offering spare parts for the old units for 10 years, or so. That is quite impressive! Bet is sounds great though. I'd love another analogish delay. Had hoped to get a pair of Moog 500 delays someday but they just keep going up and up and up in price. I can't believe how high now. Should have jumped at them sooner I guess... This unit seems like a cool option though to try and grab some day. |
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Post by kilroyrock on Jun 16, 2020 12:19:31 GMT -6
my buddy just got the fulltone, and got new tapes for it. i'm looking forward to trying it!
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Post by johneppstein on Jun 16, 2020 13:53:27 GMT -6
I wish I bought a space echo when they were still $400. Actually, if you do a currency inflation adjustment you'll find that this Echo Fix box does compare favorably to the price of an RE-301 Space Echo back in the '80s.
Yeah, it still seems expensive, but so did the 301, 501, and 555 back in the day.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2020 14:06:28 GMT -6
I wish I bought a space echo when they were still $400. Actually, if you do a currency inflation adjustment you'll find that this Echo Fix box does compare favorably to the price of an RE-301 Space Echo back in the '80s.
Yeah, it still seems expensive, but so did the 301, 501, and 555 back in the day.
I'm not sure what the point of this explanation is. It's 2020. This thing is (by my standards) very expensive. Too expensive for me, even. I was simply lamenting the fact that I passed up an opportunity to get an RE-201 before people started really fetishizing them and driving the used cost up. |
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Post by winetree on Jun 16, 2020 14:14:07 GMT -6
I paid $750.00 for my Roland 201 Space Echo in the 1970s.
I thought that was expensive.
I used it for reverb and echo for the BOSE 4 box club P.A. Not much else at the time.
Just did a rebuild and recap kit from Echofix. Unit looks and sounds like new.
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Post by johneppstein on Jun 16, 2020 15:51:46 GMT -6
Actually, if you do a currency inflation adjustment you'll find that this Echo Fix box does compare favorably to the price of an RE-301 Space Echo back in the '80s.
Yeah, it still seems expensive, but so did the 301, 501, and 555 back in the day.
I'm not sure what the point of this explanation is. It's 2020. This thing is (by my standards) very expensive. Too expensive for me, even. I was simply lamenting the fact that I passed up an opportunity to get an RE-201 before people started really fetishizing them and driving the used cost up. The point of this explanation is that new Space Echoes have ALWAYS been on the expensive side, expecially the 301 and up to which this unit is comparable (they both have Chorus, which thev 201 and 101 lacked). I came to this realization just now when I was looking at the Echo Fix site and suddenly realized that the advertised price was making me feel EXACTLY the same as I felt lookining at the price tag on a 301 back in the '80s. Nothing has changed, except that the new one is better built and has more features. And if anything is slightly cheaper, adjusted for inflation.
Space echoes are relatively expensive beasts and always have been except for a period of about 5 years (give or take) when everyone was going ga-ga over DDLs and dumping tape. Which was kinda dumb, because they don't really do the same thing except superficially.
And yeah, there was a time when you could get a Space Echo pretty cheap - and then put it on a shelf when you realized that it was broken in one way or another and it was virtually impossible to get them serviced. A properly WORKING Space Echo was a different matter.
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Post by sentientsound on Apr 29, 2023 17:10:24 GMT -6
I got an EF-X3 and love it.
The individual head outputs are great and can bring really cool stereo FX if you run it through a sub-mixer or individual DAW inputs.
Build quality feels outstanding.The BBD chorus and spring also sound good.
Only potential downside is that the instrument input won't give you that Roland preamp type tone, they ship with an Echoplex style input. I actually prefer the balanced in on the rear most of the time, with a plugin or analog filter to shape the tone going in.
The motor is also very stable so you don't get obvious wow/flutter. I'm going to try a random or sine LFO feeding the time CV input to see if that makes it go wonky when required，or put my Fairfield Circuitry Shallow Water in front.
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Post by paulcheeba on Apr 30, 2023 11:17:54 GMT -6
It’s great to have a new Space Echo. I sold a Binson because there was no fine pitch control. I still have a Roland 555 though and a tube Fulltone.
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Post by deaconblues on Apr 30, 2023 14:38:42 GMT -6
I got an EF-X3 and love it. The individual head outputs are great and can bring really cool stereo FX if you run it through a sub-mixer or individual DAW inputs. Build quality feels outstanding.The BBD chorus and spring also sound good. Only potential downside is that the instrument input won't give you that Roland preamp type tone, they ship with an Echoplex style input. I actually prefer the balanced in on the rear most of the time, with a plugin or analog filter to shape the tone going in. The motor is also very stable so you don't get obvious wow/flutter. I'm going to try a random or sine LFO feeding the time CV input to see if that makes it go wonky when required，or put my Fairfield Circuitry Shallow Water in front. I second this. Really dig mine but still haven't gotten around to using the CV in. The individual tap outputs are so great. |
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Post by deaconblues on Apr 30, 2023 14:41:52 GMT -6
It’s great to have a new Space Echo. I sold a Binson because there was no fine pitch control. I still have a Roland 555 though and a tube Fulltone. I wonder if that new T-Rex Binson Echorec goes finer on the pitch control. |
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Post by Bat Lanyard on May 1, 2023 20:05:33 GMT -6
And yeah, there was a time when you could get a Space Echo pretty cheap - and then put it on a shelf when you realized that it was broken in one way or another and it was virtually impossible to get them serviced. A properly WORKING Space Echo was a different matter.
The EchoFix repair kits, highly recommend. Used on my 301. |
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Post by paulcheeba on May 2, 2023 20:21:40 GMT -6
It’s great to have a new Space Echo. I sold a Binson because there was no fine pitch control. I still have a Roland 555 though and a tube Fulltone. I wonder if that new T-Rex Binson Echorec goes finer on the pitch control. Wow interesting. Mine was a box/rack style tube black one that I sold to someone who was cloning it. It was cooler than the Floyd ones. This new one has long and short plus +/-20% speed control which I’m not sure is useful enough for drums and arpeggio’s. It looks a bit crap for £1650 too. Compared to the quality of the Echofix for £1800. I’ll check YouTube tomorrow. Thanks for the heads up! |
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Post by deaconblues on May 3, 2023 17:15:42 GMT -6
While we're on the subject...anybody here using the Echorec plugin Pulsar makes? I don't have any of their software, but seems like they know what they're doing.
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Post by the other mark williams on May 3, 2023 22:15:30 GMT -6
While we're on the subject...anybody here using the Echorec plugin Pulsar makes? I don't have any of their software, but seems like they know what they're doing. yeah, I've got it, and it's pretty nice. Can get some nice dark echoes going with it. Well worth the price, especially when they do their big sales. |
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Post by paulcheeba on May 3, 2023 23:25:38 GMT -6
I’m liking Pulsar plugs. Seems they’ve taken things up a level. I have all of them from a sale and the new massenburg is great for $50.
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Post by deaconblues on May 4, 2023 0:59:45 GMT -6
While we're on the subject...anybody here using the Echorec plugin Pulsar makes? I don't have any of their software, but seems like they know what they're doing. yeah, I've got it, and it's pretty nice. Can get some nice dark echoes going with it. Well worth the price, especially when they do their big sales. Demo'd all evening, loved it, and just picked it up from SW for 30 bucks. Didn't find that sale price anywhere else fwiw. Definitely going to demo that 8200, paulcheeba . Thanks, y'all. |
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Post by lowlou on May 5, 2023 4:06:02 GMT -6
I'm waiting for a Soundgas Re-402. Frankensteined double re-202. ^^' Suffice to say, I'm dead broke.
The Echofix EF-X2 look amazing, but I find their sound very clean. It's a cool alternative to the older dirtier models.
They'd play nicely together I suppose.
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Post by sentientsound on May 6, 2023 15:06:17 GMT -6
I'm waiting for a Soundgas Re-402. Frankensteined double re-202. ^^' Suffice to say, I'm dead broke. The Echofix EF-X2 look amazing, but I find their sound very clean. It's a cool alternative to the older dirtier models. They'd play nicely together I suppose. I've seen those on their website, they look hilariously excessive (in a good way). How long is the lead time on one? Yea the Echofix is cleaner than old Rolands. The echo also mutes when changing head configurations, worth noting for people into that repeat rhythm mix-up with high feedback. I'm having fun with the X3 as a relatively clean tape echo platform to sit between pedals or heavy-handed filtering. As for plugins, Audiority Plexitape and Wavesfactory Echo Cat are both worth a look too. The Audiority guy also has a vibey Binson and Ursa Major SST. |
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Post by lowlou on May 7, 2023 3:43:11 GMT -6
I'm waiting for a Soundgas Re-402. Frankensteined double re-202. ^^' Suffice to say, I'm dead broke. The Echofix EF-X2 look amazing, but I find their sound very clean. It's a cool alternative to the older dirtier models. They'd play nicely together I suppose. I've seen those on their website, they look hilariously excessive (in a good way). How long is the lead time on one? Yea the Echofix is cleaner than old Rolands. The echo also mutes when changing head configurations, worth noting for people into that repeat rhythm mix-up with high feedback. I'm having fun with the X3 as a relatively clean tape echo platform to sit between pedals or heavy-handed filtering. As for plugins, Audiority Plexitape and Wavesfactory Echo Cat are both worth a look too. The Audiority guy also has a vibey Binson and Ursa Major SST. Probably very end of 2023 for the first batch ? Not sure, don't care ^^'. Once you have succesfully ordered and received Stam gear, you're up to every lead time  . I kinda like the wait to be honest. The gear feels more special. |
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Post by ji43 on May 7, 2023 7:23:53 GMT -6
Absolutely adore the Echofix EF-X3; for those who want more of an "old, warbly" sound, I've heard that using a pedal such as a Fairfield Shallow Waters can work wonders; dialing some warble/vibrato into the signal prior to hitting the echofix.
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Post by sentientsound on May 8, 2023 15:02:13 GMT -6
Absolutely adore the Echofix EF-X3; for those who want more of an "old, warbly" sound, I've heard that using a pedal such as a Fairfield Shallow Waters can work wonders; dialing some warble/vibrato into the signal prior to hitting the echofix. It definitely does add tasteful warble/wow, plus a bit of noise and drive. I recently put a Dreadbox phaser in front and having slow CV modulation of the phase sweep and X3 time can coax up some wonky, psychedelic sounds. A cool X3 tip from Shane of Echofix - the head selector still changes the echo pattern when using all the multiple direct head outputs. |
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. I kinda like the wait to be honest. The gear feels more special. 
