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Post by Mister Chase on Jun 4, 2020 10:35:51 GMT -6
Not sure if this changed hands or just company names but here are the Twin Flicks - ready to go and up for sale.
To quote Joe Kenda... "My, my, my."
Someone tell me a Flickinger story that will push me over the edge.
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Post by matt@IAA on Jun 4, 2020 10:45:23 GMT -6
Interesting. It's very much like a VP28, with 535s.
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Post by Mister Chase on Jun 4, 2020 10:50:38 GMT -6
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Post by drumsound on Jun 4, 2020 14:30:26 GMT -6
Same seller as the company that co-created them. |
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Post by Mister Chase on Jun 4, 2020 14:45:13 GMT -6
Same seller as the company that co-created them. Excellent.
Also typo in original post - meant to type "guts" not "guy"
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Post by geoff738 on Jun 4, 2020 14:50:34 GMT -6
I didn’t need to see this. I don’t believe Skibbe is still making his, although those were based on Sly’s console and we’re 500 series. None of the retailers listed on his website have any in stock and I emailed a few months back, and crickets. Doesn’t mean they won’t come back but I think for now they’re unavailable.
I have no idea how different these are from the Skibbe ones.
Anybody here spend any time with a Flickinger desk?
Cheers,
Geoff
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2020 15:19:27 GMT -6
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Post by matt@IAA on Jun 4, 2020 15:31:37 GMT -6
I've fiddled around with the 535 and earlier Flickinger op amp designs and use one now. There's several variants out there, including the one in his patent. They're not super duper fast, so they to have a different "punch" than a 312 or Quad Eight style. Transformers are going to be a question mark in terms of tone, because again I'm not sure any particular Flickinger desk was the same manufacturer or spec.
If you have a VP28 or anything with a 2520/990 footprint, I suspect throwing a 535 style op amp will get you very much in the ballpark.
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Post by geoff738 on Jun 4, 2020 17:02:11 GMT -6
That’s cool. I had no idea. Is he still running his place up in the mitt? Cheers, Geoff |
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Post by Mister Chase on Jun 4, 2020 17:04:05 GMT -6
I've fiddled around with the 535 and earlier Flickinger op amp designs and use one now. There's several variants out there, including the one in his patent. They're not super duper fast, so they to have a different "punch" than a 312 or Quad Eight style. Transformers are going to be a question mark in terms of tone, because again I'm not sure any particular Flickinger desk was the same manufacturer or spec. If you have a VP28 or anything with a 2520/990 footprint, I suspect throwing a 535 style op amp will get you very much in the ballpark. I an indeed curious about the iron...the skibbe sounded pretty clear and maybe even a little boosted up top in the clip I heard recently. |
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Post by stratboy on Jun 7, 2020 20:17:39 GMT -6
Not sure if this changed hands or just company names but here are the Twin Flicks - ready to go and up for sale.
To quote Joe Kenda... "My, my, my."
Someone tell me a Flickinger story that will push me over the edge.
Here’s a Flickinger story for you: I went to High School in Hudson Ohio, where Dan Flickinger built his consoles. I did some work after HS for a furniture maker who built the wood sides for some of the desks. One time, I got to go over to Flickinger’s place with my employer. What I saw looked pretty cool, but at the time, I was into motorcycles, not music, electronics and audio (that obsession came in my early twenties), so it didn’t mean that much to me. Does that Flickinger story push you over the edge? 😊 |
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Post by Blackdawg on Jun 7, 2020 23:05:00 GMT -6
I've fiddled around with the 535 and earlier Flickinger op amp designs and use one now. There's several variants out there, including the one in his patent. They're not super duper fast, so they to have a different "punch" than a 312 or Quad Eight style. Transformers are going to be a question mark in terms of tone, because again I'm not sure any particular Flickinger desk was the same manufacturer or spec. If you have a VP28 or anything with a 2520/990 footprint, I suspect throwing a 535 style op amp will get you very much in the ballpark. Freaking loved the sound of your "Thick Flick" op amp. I need to order some of those. |
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Post by roundbadge on Jun 8, 2020 6:02:14 GMT -6
Skibbe told me The exact Triad transformers used the old flickinger designs are still available From triad.
That’s what’s in the 500 series.
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Post by Mister Chase on Jun 8, 2020 19:37:43 GMT -6
Not sure if this changed hands or just company names but here are the Twin Flicks - ready to go and up for sale.
To quote Joe Kenda... "My, my, my."
Someone tell me a Flickinger story that will push me over the edge.
Here’s a Flickinger story for you: I went to High School in Hudson Ohio, where Dan Flickinger built his consoles. I did some work after HS for a furniture maker who built the wood sides for some of the desks. One time, I got to go over to Flickinger’s place with my employer. What I saw looked pretty cool, but at the time, I was into motorcycles, not music, electronics and audio (that obsession came in my early twenties), so it didn’t mean that much to me. Does that Flickinger story push you over the edge? 😊 Woah that is a cool story... but you have to embellish a little.
"So I went into Flickinger's place and started working on the consoles. We tracked oh I dunno, the Stones, Led Zep etc it was pretty sweet. It sounded better than anything you could imagine etc..."
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Post by Mister Chase on Jun 8, 2020 19:39:30 GMT -6
I've fiddled around with the 535 and earlier Flickinger op amp designs and use one now. There's several variants out there, including the one in his patent. They're not super duper fast, so they to have a different "punch" than a 312 or Quad Eight style. Transformers are going to be a question mark in terms of tone, because again I'm not sure any particular Flickinger desk was the same manufacturer or spec. If you have a VP28 or anything with a 2520/990 footprint, I suspect throwing a 535 style op amp will get you very much in the ballpark. Freaking loved the sound of your "Thick Flick" op amp. I need to order some of those. Curious if they could be used in the Iron Age QPP or CS1... |
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Post by Blackdawg on Jun 8, 2020 20:31:43 GMT -6
Freaking loved the sound of your "Thick Flick" op amp. I need to order some of those. Curious if they could be used in the Iron Age QPP or CS1... I'm sure Matt can answer that but the "Thick Flick" is just a standard 2520 foot print so Id guess yes. Just might have to either request them instead of what comes with those or order in addition. |
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Post by matt@IAA on Jun 8, 2020 20:37:18 GMT -6
jacobamerritt has a pair of them. They’ll work in any 2520/990 footprint. But, never compared to a real Flickinger preamp and I am not familiar with these enough to know how much the transformers color the sound.
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Post by jacobamerritt on Jun 10, 2020 10:40:42 GMT -6
jacobamerritt has a pair of them. They’ll work in any 2520/990 footprint. But, never compared to a real Flickinger preamp and I am not familiar with these enough to know how much the transformers color the sound. Yeah I love the 'thick flick' - just used it on guitars for a retro 60's garage rock type project. Great for vocals too. |
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Post by cathedralguitar on Jan 6, 2021 16:01:09 GMT -6
Just want to chime in that Flickinger Audio is a joint project with me and David Evans and Avenson Audio. We started by racking up the vintage Flickinger Ray Stevens 36-Ch channels, and then cloned them and added additional features. We have sold a lot of these units to engineers in the Nashville area, and people who are very familiar with the Flickinger at Cinderella Sound say the Twin Flicks has nailed that sound. Here is some additional info as well as some user feedback:
We have designed the preamp to behave like 2x channels from the vintage (Nashville Sound Lab / Ray Stevens) Flickinger console, with both the mic and line inputs going through the entire circuit: input transformer, 1st gain stage, interstage transformer, 2nd gain stage and output transformer. The idea for the unit is to have gain stage 1 behave with totally identical specs as the vintage 1972 Flickinger console channels, but still let the unit behave like 2x mic/line channels from a console by cascading a second opamp gain stage.
So far, the response has been 100% positive. We have one guy in LA who bought 4x units and has 8 channels going to Ampex 8-track. One guy got it for
kick and snare, and another guy is dedicating it to electric guitar, and another guy LOVES it for the saturation you get by overdriving the input stage, as it is a very pleasing, subtle distortion without the typical solid state harshness, and he uses it mainly to get that soft saturation
sound. Another guy in LA actually bought it to use as a line-level conditioner, and believe it or not he has replaced his mastering comp with the TwinFlicks, and runs all his final mixes through it!!
We very recently sold 4x TwinFlicks to a guy in Nashville, who lives really close to Cinderella Sound studios, and freaked out big time and now swears that these TwinFlicks preamps are 100% identical to the sound he got from the Flickinger console sound at Cinderalla!! He has 8x channels
his mobile truck, and does lots of famous Nashville musicians. He especially loves it for the top end, which he says is effortless, very quiet, and goes on forever. The very last 3 units we sold were also to 3 different guys interested in capturing the sound of the Cinderella Flickinger console, and they also agree that we nailed that sound.
Some folks have asked about the different metering modes, and Mode button loops through these 4x metering modes:
Mode 1: Standard RMS meter mode
Mode 2: Peak Hold w/ Clip Flash
Mode 3: RMS with top LED indicator only (Single bouncing LED mode)
Mode 4: LED meter test (Knight Rider mode)
Thanks again for the interest, and we still have a lowered introductory price valid for the next 18x TwinFlicks units, and then the price will go up. All the best for fantastic 2021,
Stephen
Flickinger Audio / Cathedral Guitars
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Post by Bat Lanyard on Jan 6, 2021 21:47:26 GMT -6
Thanks again for the interest, and we still have a lowered introductory price valid for the next 18x TwinFlicks units, and then the price will go up. All the best for fantastic 2021, Stephen Flickinger Audio / Cathedral Guitars Hey Stephen, thanks for the information. Do you have units in stock? The Cathedral site says "in stock" and the davidevansaudio site says pre-order. Would like to know, please. Thanks! |
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Post by roundbadge on Jan 6, 2021 23:19:39 GMT -6
Are these in stock?
I love my Skibbe flicks.could always use more of that sound.
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Post by cathedralguitar on Jan 8, 2021 14:31:37 GMT -6
So the units are normally partially built up and almost ready to go, and we then do some final assembly and burn-in + testing when an order is placed. We normally can ship out 2-3 units a week. Unfortunately, since the start of Covid, we have experienced a few supply chain delays in getting some of our parts restocked, and at the moment we are waiting on a part, but can resume our normal delivery process on Feb.1. So any orders placed this month will ship out the first week of February. Also, we have been working on 3 new Flickinger products, a dual-channel EQ, a Pre + EQ channel strip, and a 500-series pre, and we are planning to ship some, if not all of these, in the Spring of 2021. Thanks again for the interest, Stephen
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Post by Tommy Harron on Jan 9, 2021 6:13:25 GMT -6
Also, we have been working on 3 new Flickinger products, a dual-channel EQ, a Pre + EQ channel strip, and a 500-series pre, and we are planning to ship some, if not all of these, in the Spring of 2021. Thanks again for the interest, Stephen Will the 500 series also have a line level input? |
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Post by Bat Lanyard on Jan 11, 2021 22:16:30 GMT -6
So the units are normally partially built up and almost ready to go, and we then do some final assembly and burn-in + testing when an order is placed. We normally can ship out 2-3 units a week. Unfortunately, since the start of Covid, we have experienced a few supply chain delays in getting some of our parts restocked, and at the moment we are waiting on a part, but can resume our normal delivery process on Feb.1. So any orders placed this month will ship out the first week of February. Also, we have been working on 3 new Flickinger products, a dual-channel EQ, a Pre + EQ channel strip, and a 500-series pre, and we are planning to ship some, if not all of these, in the Spring of 2021. Thanks again for the interest, Stephen Cool, thanks for the update and totally understand on the delays. |
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Post by cathedralguitar on Jan 15, 2021 14:13:33 GMT -6
Will the 500 series also have a line level input? Yes, the 500 series units will behave like 1-ch of the Twin Flicks, and you can run either line-in + mic-in through the unit. Thanks, Stephen |
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