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Post by bricejchandler on Apr 5, 2020 9:50:55 GMT -6
Don't know which is which but I like the cleaner, tighter A by a wide margin. The mix is considerably brighter than what I do so I tend to favor A that sounds a little less distorted and doesn't seem to accentuate 3,5k and above quite as much.
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Post by peterhess on Apr 5, 2020 17:56:42 GMT -6
I built a pair and love ‘em. My first go to in fact. I found the instructions on calibrating nearly impossible to figure out. If I buy one it would be pre built, they're so cheap. Wish they had trim though. What do u like about them? What else u have? A pair of Vintech 573s, a pair of Lolas, couple of Eisen tubes, UA 4-710. Nothing bananas. But EZ 1081-Skulptor 573eq is my favorite chain of my modest gear. Usually followed by Stam 2A. My Coles 4038 really likes the low impedance setting, and I find I’m never disappointed by how they sound. Not as big and potentially gnarly as my Lolas, more coherent (vague, I know) as the 710s, a little more saturated than the Vintechs. I record a lot of woodwinds, and I want to hear a certain richness, with detail, from, say, 300-800hz. They sound right to me.
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Post by nudwig on Apr 10, 2020 11:43:17 GMT -6
Before I completely forget about this everyone but the original poster (who seems to have disappeared) got it right, A was AML and B was the vintage 1081's.
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Post by telecastertube on Apr 10, 2020 15:24:45 GMT -6
Damn…I hoped it was the other way around.
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Post by plainofjars on Apr 17, 2020 13:17:36 GMT -6
Are there any commercial recordings anyone can point to that use 1081s for everything, or use them for vocals? It always sounds like there's something wrong or off about them to me, but it's hard to put my finger on what. Because I had a similar reaction to the calrec pq1161s I used to have, I tend to attribute it to the class a/b thing, but I have no idea if that's actually what it is.
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 17, 2020 13:32:16 GMT -6
Before I completely forget about this everyone but the original poster (who seems to have disappeared) got it right, A was AML and B was the vintage 1081's. He told me to go F myself. I F’d him instead.
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Post by nudwig on Apr 17, 2020 14:03:59 GMT -6
Are there any commercial recordings anyone can point to that use 1081s for everything, or use them for vocals? It always sounds like there's something wrong or off about them to me, but it's hard to put my finger on what. Because I had a similar reaction to the calrec pq1161s I used to have, I tend to attribute it to the class a/b thing, but I have no idea if that's actually what it is. Nick Launay in one of his MWTM videos noted heavy use of them on the Nick Cave album Push The Sky Away. The vocals on that are 49 to 1081 to CL1B, both in tracking then run through again during mixing.
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Post by nudwig on Apr 17, 2020 14:06:00 GMT -6
He told me to go F myself. I F’d him instead. What a weirdo, though I was starting to notice with the excessive posting some purple place vibes.
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Post by plainofjars on Apr 17, 2020 14:36:34 GMT -6
Are there any commercial recordings anyone can point to that use 1081s for everything, or use them for vocals? It always sounds like there's something wrong or off about them to me, but it's hard to put my finger on what. Because I had a similar reaction to the calrec pq1161s I used to have, I tend to attribute it to the class a/b thing, but I have no idea if that's actually what it is. Nick Launay in one of his MWTM videos noted heavy use of them on the Nick Cave album Push The Sky Away. The vocals on that are 49 to 1081 to CL1B, both in tracking then run through again during mixing. That's very helpful information, thanks! Not a fan of the mature Nick Cave—well really anything after the Birthday Party stuff—but that doesn't matter here. His mature recordings tend to sound like good normal big studio recordings. I'll listen to some of Push and comment after.
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Post by plainofjars on Apr 17, 2020 14:51:08 GMT -6
Nick Launay in one of his MWTM videos noted heavy use of them on the Nick Cave album Push The Sky Away. The vocals on that are 49 to 1081 to CL1B, both in tracking then run through again during mixing. That's very helpful information, thanks! Not a fan of the mature Nick Cave—well really anything after the Birthday Party stuff—but that doesn't matter here. His mature recordings tend to sound like good normal big studio recordings. I'll listen to some of Push and comment after. Lol oddly, Push does have that weird kind of thinness/hollowness I associate with the 1081s. I went back to the first Grinderman album, which has the same thing going on. Obviously, confirmation bias could be at work here; and of course mixing decisions are going to have a lot more do with with things like "hollowness" and "thinness", but it really does have, I think indisputably a different sonic signature to it than the 1073 sound that is so familiar. Not in texture, but in the frequency response or something. Not that I'm in love with the 1073 sound, which I do get tired of, and think is wrong for a lot of stuff. But it doesn't sound *weird* to me, for lack of a better word, like the 1081s or the pq1161s that i had. It just sounds like something is out of whack.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2021 17:29:25 GMT -6
Bumping.
How is everyone liking these? Neve class AB pres are criminally under-appreciated. 31105 is super rad.
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Post by nudwig on Jul 27, 2021 21:42:54 GMT -6
I still really dig my pair, they're used on every song, tho I still dream about owning the vintage 1081 pair I sometimes rent. Overall I feel the Tape Op review that highlighted the differences was spot on.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2021 22:36:24 GMT -6
I still really dig my pair, they're used on every song, tho I still dream about owning the vintage 1081 pair I sometimes rent. Overall I feel the Tape Op review that highlighted the differences was spot on. I'll have to read that. I can't believe nobody else is making a pre-only 81-style.
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Post by nudwig on Jul 27, 2021 23:00:22 GMT -6
I still really dig my pair, they're used on every song, tho I still dream about owning the vintage 1081 pair I sometimes rent. Overall I feel the Tape Op review that highlighted the differences was spot on. I'll have to read that. I can't believe nobody else is making a pre-only 81-style. I think Chameleon Labs also makes one. I should mention I have the 2ru units with eq and 99% of the time track with eq engaged. I have no complaints when using the pre only but even with the originals I definitely like using 1081's with the eq. Louder Than Liftoff's Royal Blue module I believe is modeled more after 1081's than 1073's. I really enjoy using that as well.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2021 23:17:28 GMT -6
I'll have to read that. I can't believe nobody else is making a pre-only 81-style. I think Chameleon Labs also makes one. I should mention I have the 2ru units with eq and 99% of the time track with eq engaged. I have no complaints when using the pre only but even with the originals I definitely like using 1081's with the eq. Louder Than Liftoff's Royal Blue module I believe is modeled more after 1081's than 1073's. I really enjoy using that as well. The Chameleon is discontinued now. I know what you mean about having the EQ on.
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Post by Blackdawg on Jul 27, 2021 23:41:17 GMT -6
I think Chameleon Labs also makes one. I should mention I have the 2ru units with eq and 99% of the time track with eq engaged. I have no complaints when using the pre only but even with the originals I definitely like using 1081's with the eq. Louder Than Liftoff's Royal Blue module I believe is modeled more after 1081's than 1073's. I really enjoy using that as well. The Chameleon is discontinued now. I know what you mean about having the EQ on. far as I know so is the ez1081. Had a short life.
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Post by audiomaintenance on Jul 28, 2021 0:28:33 GMT -6
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Post by Blackdawg on Jul 28, 2021 1:09:41 GMT -6
Excellent news! Although what a pain. Sorry to hear that. Glad you got it sorted though.
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