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Post by chessparov on Jul 5, 2020 17:45:54 GMT -6
Well I think it's about time for the RGO Group hug. But at least 6 feet away from each other, at all times!  I just want all of you (and those in your Personal Sphere) to be as safe and healthy as possible. Even John Eppstein. Chris |
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Post by rowmat on Jul 5, 2020 17:59:36 GMT -6
Aside from the BS this thread has turned into......regarding the bolded above..... Indeed. Chris Cross has been partially paralyzed in complications with Covid. He is recovering, but said to a mutual friend that it was the worst sickness he ever had.... Covid triggered a weird immune system disorder that left him partially paralyzed. www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-52323046He's getting better and re-learning how to walk now. Hopefully his vocal chords and fingers will be OK. There are other cases I'm familiar with that had no respiratory complications but other weird stuff. We just don't know everything about this virus yet. Are you aware he was diagnosed with Guillain–Barré syndrome?
It may have been associated directly with COVID-19 or may have not at all.
As there are many asymptomatic COVID-19 cases people who become ill due to unrelated causes and subsequently test positive to COVID-19 could result in a misdiagnosis as being caused by COVID-19 when it maybe be not at all. Or COVID-19, as some reports suggest, may weaken their immune sysytem making them more susceptible to other illnesses.
I personally know another musician who developed Guillain–Barré syndrome about 10 years ago when visiting the US.
He ended up in hospital, had several blood transfusions and was handed a bill for $450,000 USD. Fortunately his travel insurance covered most of the bill
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Post by drbill on Jul 5, 2020 18:24:50 GMT -6
Yes, I'm aware. I quoted the article above. "Unfortunately as a consequence of Covid-19 other problems were caused," he continued." It was brought on from Covid from what my buddy said Chris told him. There's a hell of a lot we don't know about this thing yet.
Another Audio Manufacturer leader who's name I won't mention - but whose gear you all know, and many of you use - is struggling with other "non-respiratory" illnesses brought on by Covid including extreme malaise, fatigue and inability to work after a couple months of Covid illness.
Evidently there are a lot of non-respiratory complications that this thing can bring on. Many of which last far longer than some of the acute respiratory victims experience.
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Post by rowmat on Jul 5, 2020 18:46:49 GMT -6
Yes, I'm aware. I quoted the article above. "Unfortunately as a consequence of Covid-19 other problems were caused," he continued." It was brought on from Covid from what my buddy said. At least that's what Chris told him. There's a hell of a lot we don't know about this thing yet. Another Audio Manufacturer leader who's name I won't mention - but whose gear you all know, and many of you use - is struggling with other "non-respiratory" illnesses brought on by Covid including extreme malaise, fatigue and inability to work after a couple months of Covid illness. There are a lot of non-respiratory complications that this thing can bring on. Many of which last far longer than some of the acute respiratory victims experience. Clotting/sludging of blood while initially being reported in the lungs has shown up throughout other areas within the bodies of severe COVID cases often causing extensive organ damage/failure such as in the kidneys etc. and has even appeared as diabetes like gangrene in the feet etc. for which co-morbidities such as diabetes are believed to be compounded by COVID. So while respiratory failure is one aspect it seems the failure of the ability of the blood to move oxygen around the body due to 'sludging' is a major characteristic. |
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Post by rowmat on Jul 5, 2020 19:11:23 GMT -6
It's not rocket science that more testing will reveal more cases and in fact there will be far more than 56,015 cases YESTERDAY as you put it because most cases are asymptomatic and go untested. So the actual morbidity rate will end up being far lower as a percentage than it will based on the official positive test stats. You make 2 giant assumptions. 1 who are you testing? If your pool testing or testing a bunch of isolated athletes daily your going to skew your data, sure you will find a couple of positive’s but not like out in the real world. 2. Deaths will be recorde being recorded as pneumonia d as Covid related. Still a lot of home deaths of those undiagnosed recorded as pneumonia. The fact that more testing will reveal more cases should be self evident just as no testing will reveal no cases.
It's more likely that those who have symptoms/had symptoms will volunteer to be tested along with those who think they may have been exposed while those who are completely asymptomatic are less likely to feel the need to be tested.
And what about those who test negative this week but contract COVID-19 next week and are asymptomatic and don't get tested again? That's surely going to be occurring and probably to a far greater extent than we think.
Providing those who have had COVID-19 develop long term measurable anti-bodies then anti-body testing in conjunction with antigen testing is going to be the only way to know the extent of the spread and whether or not herd immunity is a realistic prospect depending on how the virus mutates.
It's the actual cause of death where the other discrepancy lies as did the deceased die as a direct result 'of' COVID-19 or did they die 'with' COVID-19 but from an unrelated cause? As you said deaths attributed to pneumonia may or may not be due to COVID-19 yet maybe reported as being COVID-19 when they are not and vice versa.
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Post by chessparov on Jul 5, 2020 21:34:16 GMT -6
My kidding aside, sorry to hear about Cross' medical situation, along with others.
Being a "Worry Wart" by nature, I have a number of loved ones I'm concerned about, who are in a vulnerable position too.
Chris
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Post by johneppstein on Jul 5, 2020 22:23:03 GMT -6
Yes, I'm aware. I quoted the article above. "Unfortunately as a consequence of Covid-19 other problems were caused," he continued." It was brought on from Covid from what my buddy said Chris told him. There's a hell of a lot we don't know about this thing yet. Another Audio Manufacturer leader who's name I won't mention - but whose gear you all know, and many of you use - is struggling with other "non-respiratory" illnesses brought on by Covid including extreme malaise, fatigue and inability to work after a couple months of Covid illness. Evidently there are a lot of non-respiratory complications that this thing can bring on. Many of which last far longer than some of the acute respiratory victims experience. As I was saying. Thank you! |
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Post by svart on Aug 4, 2020 11:02:56 GMT -6
During the lockdown a man was sitting on his couch reading a magazine. His wife walks in and says "Honey, do you think the lockdown has made me fat?" and he responds "I can't tell, you were already fat".
The man's cause of death: Complications from COVID-19.
Two ants are standing around and one says "do you think we'll catch the coronavirus?". The other ant says "nah, we have anty bodies".
For the first time since 1945 the national spelling bee has been cancil.. cansul.. cansel.. It's be called off.
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Post by Ward on Aug 10, 2020 7:15:52 GMT -6
During the lockdown a man was sitting on his couch reading a magazine. His wife walks in and says "Honey, do you think the lockdown has made me fat?" and he responds "I can't tell, you were already fat". The man's cause of death: Complications from COVID-19. Two ants are standing around and one says "do you think we'll catch the coronavirus?". The other ant says "nah, we have anty bodies". For the first time since 1945 the national spelling bee has been cancil.. cansul.. cansel.. It's be called off. I'd ask if you were here all week, but the bar is limited to 10 people and they can't afford the chameleon. And there's no server to tip. LOL |
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Post by rowmat on Aug 10, 2020 16:04:59 GMT -6
In Melbourne we are two weeks into a Stage 4 six week lock down. Most businesses closed except for food, pharmacy and 'essential' services. Melburnians will only be allowed to shop for food and necessary supplies within 5 kilometres (3 miles) of their home. Masks are mandatory outside of home.
Exercise will be limited to one hour once per day, within 5km of home. Schools closed, weddings cancelled.
A curfew will apply from 8:00pm to 5:00am each night unless you are traveling to work in an essential industry and have a permit signed by your employer. Penalties of up to $19,826 for individuals and $99,132 for businesses will apply to employers who issue worker permits to employees who do not meet the requirements of the worker permit scheme or who otherwise break the rules. There will also be on-the-spot fines of up to $1,652 for individuals and up to $9,913 for businesses for anyone who breaches the scheme requirements. This includes employers, and employees who do not carry their worker permit when travelling to and from work. www.vic.gov.au/coronavirus-covid-19-restrictions-victoria |
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Post by drbill on Aug 10, 2020 18:08:46 GMT -6
After dodging the bullet for the first 4 months of this mess, the last 6-8 weeks have seen exponential growth of hospitalizations and deaths. I won't bore with details, but for the last week or so we definitely seem to be slowing down. No deaths in a few days, and hospitalizations are down over 50% over 3 weeks ago.
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Post by Ward on Aug 11, 2020 5:02:55 GMT -6
So... NAMM is canceled. That's just great. How do we do this online?
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Post by drbill on Aug 11, 2020 15:13:30 GMT -6
So... NAMM is canceled. That's just great. How do we do this online? Honestly, was that ever even a question? |
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Post by Ward on Aug 12, 2020 6:10:15 GMT -6
So... NAMM is canceled. That's just great. How do we do this online? Honestly, was that ever even a question? Yeah, cos yo know . . . hope sorta remained, for a little while. I mean, everybody kind of knew . . . but you know, wishful thinking is all we have some times. |
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Post by drbill on Aug 12, 2020 9:58:01 GMT -6
Honestly, was that ever even a question? Yeah, cos yo know . . . hope sorta remained, for a little while. I mean, everybody kind of knew . . . but you know, wishful thinking is all we have some times. you gotta stay positive!! |
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Post by Ward on Aug 12, 2020 10:49:19 GMT -6
All this continuous upheaval . . . Makes me wonder if we've entered into a new age of biological warfare sometimes.
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Post by christopher on Aug 12, 2020 15:05:10 GMT -6
Yeah, cos yo know . . . hope sorta remained, for a little while. I mean, everybody kind of knew . . . but you know, wishful thinking is all we have some times. you gotta stay positive!! Good point.. you remind me that the Spanish Flu was followed by the Roaring 20's, a super great decade for music! |
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Post by chessparov on Aug 12, 2020 20:43:23 GMT -6
Whereas as the name implies... The Russian Flu, was of a much shorter duration.
Kidding aside, it still killed over a million people within about a year.
The last Great Pandemic, of the 19th Century.
Chris
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Post by rowmat on Aug 12, 2020 21:07:28 GMT -6
you gotta stay positive!! Good point.. you remind me that the Spanish Flu was followed by the Roaring 20's, a super great decade for music! Except the Spanish Flu should have been called the Kansas Flu. |
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Post by johneppstein on Aug 13, 2020 0:33:01 GMT -6
Yeah, cos yo know . . . hope sorta remained, for a little while. I mean, everybody kind of knew . . . but you know, wishful thinking is all we have some times. you gotta stay positive!! or negative......
whatever....
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Post by johneppstein on Aug 13, 2020 0:36:46 GMT -6
Good point.. you remind me that the Spanish Flu was followed by the Roaring 20's, a super great decade for music! Except the Spanish Flu should have been called the Kansas Flu. Because of all the Latino people living in Kansas? |
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Post by rowmat on Aug 13, 2020 6:15:17 GMT -6
Except the Spanish Flu should have been called the Kansas Flu. Because of all the Latino people living in Kansas? ? |
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Post by johneppstein on Aug 13, 2020 21:39:04 GMT -6
Because of all the Latino people living in Kansas? ? Exactly. |
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Post by chessparov on Aug 14, 2020 11:41:15 GMT -6
Gee I thought you meant the Group! Carry on... Chris |
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Post by gwlee7 on Aug 14, 2020 18:00:57 GMT -6
We got our welcome back staff bag this week. This was the main item in it.  |
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