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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2020 16:35:44 GMT -6
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Post by Guitar on Mar 17, 2020 16:44:55 GMT -6
I have two of them, they are fine.
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Post by wiz on Mar 17, 2020 17:03:56 GMT -6
Used em for years, good
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Post by sugarveilstudios on Mar 17, 2020 17:05:13 GMT -6
Agreed. I like mine as well. Also it’s convenient as hell having the switching on the front.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2020 17:47:10 GMT -6
good enough, will get one. thanks
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Post by mrholmes on Mar 17, 2020 17:54:20 GMT -6
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 17, 2020 19:04:25 GMT -6
Have 3 , work great, I’d say inexpensive as they seem well built not cheap !
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Post by ericn on Mar 17, 2020 20:37:51 GMT -6
They are a slight step up from the rest, but once you switch to a real TT bay you understand how cheaply built they really are.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2020 0:34:55 GMT -6
would you say the TT is better due mainly to its more robust/solid built? budget is tight, cause i have few other stuff to grab, most important to me is the sound, as long the sound quality is the same, cause it will be feeding my rme interface lines inputs.
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Post by bricejchandler on Mar 18, 2020 4:33:25 GMT -6
would you say the TT is better due mainly to its more robust/solid built? budget is tight, cause i have few other stuff to grab, most important to me is the sound, as long the sound quality is the same, cause it will be feeding my rme interface lines inputs. I didn't notice a sound difference between my TT patches and my 1/4" patches. But they do feel flimsy in comparison, the inputs get wiggly/scratchy pretty fast.
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 18, 2020 5:17:05 GMT -6
I have had my 3 S’s for almost 3 years, I am not aware of them degrading at all.
Depending on your real level of use, I think the counter argument would be are more expensive patch-bays actually the better investment ?
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 18, 2020 5:23:36 GMT -6
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Post by bricejchandler on Mar 18, 2020 5:32:24 GMT -6
I have had my 3 S’s for almost 3 years, I am not aware of them degrading at all. Depending on your real level of use, I think the counter argument would be are more expensive patch-bays actually the better investment ? The Samson are definitely the most solid out of the 1/4". I had some cheaper Neutriks that were horrible, felt super cheap. I actually have the Samsons in my home studio, and find them perfect for what I do. I don't use them everyday, and I'm careful. In a real studio or live venue, that is gonna be working almost 24/7, with a lot of outside engineers that might not be as careful, I would def feel better with TT patchbays, they just feel more solid to me.
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Post by indiehouse on Mar 18, 2020 6:05:08 GMT -6
I've had both 1/4 inch bays and TT bays. Started off with the cheopo Neutrik bays, then bought some Samson. The Samson's were miles better. Then I got a good deal on some used Redco TT bays and made the switch. There are some things I actually liked better about the Samson bays. The switching config is on the front. Super handy. I also liked the 1/4 inch inputs on the back. More flexible to change routing than D-Sub. I did have a few weird issues from time to time, like crosstalk/ghosting that I traced back to the patchbay. Sometimes patches wouldn't work, I think the 1/4 inch connections work themselves loose or put a bind on the jack or something. The jacks themselves felt good. They didn't feel cheap like the Neutriks. The TT bays are ok. D-sub is definitely more of a pain in the ass, especially if you make your own cables, like I do. Speaking of, it's super easy and cheap to make TRS patch cables. TT cables, on the other hand, are expensive and rarely cheaper to DIY. I'd consider phantom power uses too. It's a no-no to plug/unplug a TRS patchbay cable with phantom power on, as it could fry your gear. Less so with TT cables.
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Post by ericn on Mar 18, 2020 7:24:58 GMT -6
would you say the TT is better due mainly to its more robust/solid built? budget is tight, cause i have few other stuff to grab, most important to me is the sound, as long the sound quality is the same, cause it will be feeding my rme interface lines inputs. Yes!!! The Jacks used in all 1/4 bays these days are based on the jacks used in most gear that don’t have the duty cycle of the old school TT type brass jacks. They were not designed for constantly being plugged and unplugged. Many years ago ProCo had a 1/4 unbalanced bay that was built like TT bays, it was a tank! Best 1/4 to 1/4 bay ever but they didn’t have a balanced version, sold a ton of them. Once you go TT you fall in love with the increased density and will find yourself adding more patch points. I can’t say this enough but bays are a great simple way to build your soldering skills and adding a bay full of mults (splitters), phase inverters, ground lifts, simple pads and some transformers for either isolation or tone will make your life so much easier.
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Post by nick8801 on Mar 18, 2020 7:42:55 GMT -6
I don’t wanna jinx it, but I’ve had two Neutrik bays for years now with no issues. One of them I got used and it needed to be cleaned when I got it. Still no issues. Samson’s are nice. If I had to get a new one I’d probably buy one of those.
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Post by Omicron9 on Mar 18, 2020 7:53:05 GMT -6
I like mine. I've had other brands of 1/4" patchbays, but the Samson is my fave. I love the normalling switching options being right on the front.
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Post by ericn on Mar 18, 2020 7:53:40 GMT -6
I don’t wanna jinx it, but I’ve had two Neutrik bays for years now with no issues. One of them I got used and it needed to be cleaned when I got it. Still no issues. Samson’s are nice. If I had to get a new one I’d probably buy one of those. I found a great use for those crappy Rean / Neutrik bays. A couple of years ago I scored a couple for stupid, stupid money. Best cheap vent panels ever!
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Post by nick8801 on Mar 18, 2020 8:30:38 GMT -6
I don’t wanna jinx it, but I’ve had two Neutrik bays for years now with no issues. One of them I got used and it needed to be cleaned when I got it. Still no issues. Samson’s are nice. If I had to get a new one I’d probably buy one of those. I found a great use for those crappy Rean / Neutrik bays. A couple of years ago I scored a couple for stupid, stupid money. Best cheap vent panels ever! Haha! I mean They’re definitely not perfect, but like I said, never had any issues with them! I also dust and clean the studio every week, so I’m sure that helps as well!
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Post by ericn on Mar 18, 2020 9:43:35 GMT -6
I found a great use for those crappy Rean / Neutrik bays. A couple of years ago I scored a couple for stupid, stupid money. Best cheap vent panels ever! Haha! I mean They’re definitely not perfect, but like I said, never had any issues with them! I also dust and clean the studio every week, so I’m sure that helps as well! Yeah they areOK till they aren’t then they totally suck. My Bias comes from all the ones that came back in my gear pimp days.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2020 10:04:37 GMT -6
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Post by drbill on Mar 18, 2020 10:15:34 GMT -6
I'm with Eric. For me it's TT or nothing.
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Post by lpedrum on Mar 18, 2020 12:37:46 GMT -6
The original post stated that he needed a patch bay because "I have a few synths." As wonderfully top end as they are, TT would be overpaying for what the need is here. I use the Samson daily and it's been verified among many studio owners to be one of those rare "cheap but great" pieces of gear with few complaints. It's always interesting to read the "only the best for me" subtle gear shaming opinions on RGO, and I get that because I've probably done that too! But for most of us it's a balance of when to spend big bucks and when not to. In this case all one has to do is check the cost of TT cables, and after the initial shock decide if it's worth the investment!
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Post by Guitar on Mar 18, 2020 12:45:58 GMT -6
only the best for Pep Pep
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Post by ericn on Mar 18, 2020 14:34:47 GMT -6
The original post stated that he needed a patch bay because "I have a few synths." As wonderfully top end as they are, TT would be overpaying for what the need is here. I use the Samson daily and it's been verified among many studio owners to be one of those rare "cheap but great" pieces of gear with few complaints. It's always interesting to read the "only the best for me" subtle gear shaming opinions on RGO, and I get that because I've probably done that too! But for most of us it's a balance of when to spend big bucks and when not to. In this case all one has to do is check the cost of TT cables, and after the initial shock decide if it's worth the investment! I have yet to pay more than $75 for a used TT bay! The thing to remember patchbays unlike almost anything in audio are primarily a mechanical device. I have seen TT and military Jack bays that date to the early day’s of Telephone that with a little cleaning are working today. On the other hand I saw and have seen so many of the inexpensive jacks fail that at this point it’s almost a religion to speak out against them. I had to regain the trust of to many clients who at my urging bought in to various versions of these and it’s not like Samson is making its own Jacks, in fact I’m pretty sure everything that has ever seen the Samson name from the rack of very overpriced wireless I swore I was going to throw off the truck to the pair of Cheap LDC’s I picked up for the Bodies is made by some OEM.
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