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RME ADI
Feb 9, 2020 11:26:58 GMT -6
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Post by stratboy on Feb 9, 2020 11:26:58 GMT -6
RME is an engineering company. They design stuff for others too. And those might be names we've never heard of. One of the first design jobs they did was Behringer's ADA8000. At that time, RME didn't even exist yet. That's one of the things that sets them apart. Marketing isn't important, engineering is. For me, their driver, TotalMix and DigiCheck make them unique. In fact, my FF400 and it's software has replaced most audio measurement devices. Yes, they have I nice package of supplemental apps that I miss.
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Post by mrholmes on Feb 9, 2020 13:54:31 GMT -6
I didn’t mean this thread as a for or against discussion I am actively considering some more like mastering converters and the dilemma of AD and DA or just DA and value per price point. And I am questioning the cost benefit, as the symph mkii sounds pretty good to me but I have read the 2x6se difference is discernible and apparent. RME DAC and lcd for $1600 or so vs Apogee top of the line AD and DA for $200 more ?
I am not arguing against or for. I just try to tell you that it can't be bad... you have to try for yourself. Nobody can tell you if you prefer RME or Apogee....
Go to your retailer and listen with your best known cans....
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RME ADI
Feb 9, 2020 14:13:20 GMT -6
Post by kcatthedog on Feb 9, 2020 14:13:20 GMT -6
I understand, all good and I agree, only problem is local retailer doesn't normally stock higher end stuff: drag !
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RME ADI
Feb 9, 2020 14:33:23 GMT -6
Post by BenjaminAshlin on Feb 9, 2020 14:33:23 GMT -6
One of the first design jobs they did was Behringer's ADA8000. At that time, RME didn't even exist yet. This is the first I have ever heard of this....Do have any evidence? RME was founded in 1996 and the ADA8000 came out in the early 2000s(from my memory). It was common forum understanding the Behringer copied RMEs design. I haven't heard anything to counter this argument.
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RME ADI
Feb 9, 2020 14:52:26 GMT -6
Post by Guitar on Feb 9, 2020 14:52:26 GMT -6
I agree I am extremely suspicious of uli behringer's design 'motives' so if there's any hard proof of this I'm interested. I guess both companies are in Germany to some degree.
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Post by jrasia on Feb 9, 2020 15:03:48 GMT -6
The newer ADI 2s sound much more detailed and smoother. The dynamics are softened and the presentation is forward and small. Most people I know with good ears who bought them sold them off. I can assure you the ADI 2s are anything but forward and small. Having had Mytek, JCF, dangerous, and apogee to compare, my ADI FS is staying.
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RME ADI
Feb 9, 2020 15:09:08 GMT -6
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Post by kcatthedog on Feb 9, 2020 15:09:08 GMT -6
Nice, do you have gen 1 and without the lcd?
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Feb 9, 2020 16:00:13 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2020 16:00:13 GMT -6
The newer ADI 2s sound much more detailed and smoother. The dynamics are softened and the presentation is forward and small. Most people I know with good ears who bought them sold them off. I can assure you the ADI 2s are anything but forward and small. Having had Mytek, JCF, dangerous, and apogee to compare, my ADI FS is staying. It’s all taste. I meant the image was forward. The tone was laid back. It’s decent but I don’t like it. It’s not my thing. RME needs to get that sound in the multichannel interfaces. They’re really lagging behind the competition there. I prefer the Symphonies and Converts for dedicated two channel converters. Mytek, I don’t get at all what they are going for in anything but the 8 channel 192, which was still more colored than Apogee to me. The stereo 192 was the only high end pro converter I thought was so awful that it had to be swapped out right away for less expensive, utilitarian kit at hand. It was worse than the Benchmarks.
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Post by mrholmes on Feb 9, 2020 16:02:20 GMT -6
One of the first design jobs they did was Behringer's ADA8000. At that time, RME didn't even exist yet. This is the first I have ever heard of this....Do have any evidence? RME was founded in 1996 and the ADA8000 came out in the early 2000s(from my memory). It was common forum understanding the Behringer copied RMEs design. I haven't heard anything to counter this argument. OT ON.
Nope the ADA 8000 is a design by Behringer Germany and assembled in China. Most of the Autocom compressors where under license of DBX - etc.
People always say Behringer steals designs but I guess this was the early days.
Now Mr. Behringer buys the brands AKG / Auratone etc....
The most scary thing is he starts to build quality items.
OT OFF.
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RME ADI
Feb 9, 2020 16:29:04 GMT -6
Post by jrasia on Feb 9, 2020 16:29:04 GMT -6
Nice, do you have gen 1 and without the lcd? Its the ADI-2 Pro FS to be exact
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RME ADI
Feb 9, 2020 16:34:41 GMT -6
Post by Guitar on Feb 9, 2020 16:34:41 GMT -6
He's still stealing designs, don't worry about that. But the build quality is improving a lot in the product range. There are still some build quality issues though, IMO. But B is slowly being legitimized with some of their better releases. Uli is on forums too, I was trolling him on gs once, I wonder if he'll ever show up here.
Anyway back to RME. I'm sure most people roll their eyes when B comes up. RME could use more air time, B gets enough of it.
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RME ADI
Feb 9, 2020 16:38:26 GMT -6
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Post by kcatthedog on Feb 9, 2020 16:38:26 GMT -6
So, the adi-fs2 has upgrades from the 1 is my understanding?
Are you using it to grab your console stereo out or interface or how ?
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Post by jrasia on Feb 9, 2020 17:20:25 GMT -6
Using it for monitoring and mixdown captures yes.
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Feb 9, 2020 20:29:11 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2020 20:29:11 GMT -6
Are ufx+ interface convertors/sound quality equally as good as the adi2 fs Or is adi2 fs better>
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Post by cyrano on Feb 10, 2020 10:55:40 GMT -6
This is the first I have ever heard of this....Do have any evidence? RME was founded in 1996 and the ADA8000 came out in the early 2000s(from my memory). It was common forum understanding the Behringer copied RMEs design. I haven't heard anything to counter this argument. OT ON.
Nope the ADA 8000 is a design by Behringer Germany and assembled in China. Most of the Autocom compressors where under license of DBX - etc.
People always say Behringer steals designs but I guess this was the early days.
Now Mr. Behringer buys the brands AKG / Auratone etc....
The most scary thing is he starts to build quality items.
OT OFF.
One of RME's designers' first job was for Behringer; that's when he designed the ADA8000. That's what I was told by the man himself. I believe they also did some work for Behringer in a later stage, but have no idea what became of it. Of course, if you look at the schematics around ADDAs, they all look like the ADDA manufacturer's application example. Board design etc. does vary a lot, but that's not what people look at when they accuse Ulli. And, yes, these compressors look a lot like others. But so do dozens of other brands. The only difference is, Ullis sells a thousand units at 100$, the rest sell a dozen units at a 1000$ or more. It's not only Behringer that suffers that faith, though. Alesis is another example. Since they've been building budget gear, nobody on the internet tubes seems to like 'em. Yet it's not bad gear, for it's price. Snobbery, if you ask me.
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Post by cyrano on Feb 10, 2020 10:58:08 GMT -6
Are ufx+ interface convertors/sound quality equally as good as the adi2 fs Or is adi2 fs better> The ADI2 should be better, but I doubt you'll be able to hear significant difference. Maybe if you have a very good room with excellent speakers and perfect source materials. These are different devices. The UFX is expandable, the ADI2 is not.
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RME ADI
Feb 10, 2020 11:35:45 GMT -6
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Post by kcatthedog on Feb 10, 2020 11:35:45 GMT -6
Using it for monitoring and mixdown captures yes. Do you find the EQ useful for mastering or a gimmick ?
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Feb 11, 2020 9:57:16 GMT -6
Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2020 9:57:16 GMT -6
they the rme m-1610 pro too.. looks nice
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