Puremix.net / Mix with the Masters

Yes. Some people on here will talk trash about online teaching platforms like Purmix, but there have been a few things I learned from those videos. I've learned more from the Nail The Mix videos. Its all subjective. In my experience its just nice to see someone else's workflow and how they tackle problems. I mean, if I can spend a free hour watching a video, and I take away one trick or technique I wouldn't have thought to use than its worth it for me. Whats been much more useful than the videos is getting the multitracks and mixing them myself, then comparing to the commercial release. That's been a real learning experience for me.

I've tried both.
You get what you pay for, MWTM certainly has more to offer and a deeper knowledge base. I'd recommended it for sure.
Puremix was OK and not sure I would recommend that one to be honest, but worth checking out to see for yourself.

To me it is more than just tricks, MWTM is not just mixing tutorials.... it actually talks quite a bit about recording and general production, which I find I enjoy even more.

I actually enjoy some of this stuff. I never had much of a studio internship or anything like that, so its cool to see them pick their brains on random topics/etc, you get a better sense of the big picture. More of a conversation at times which I dont really mind.

It's made me realize that there isn't so much 'black magic' involved, but just talent + 'engineering experience', which is really just making a series of good decisions and problem solving. I kinda think true top 5% 'Mixers' are somewhat born into it, and although you can kinda learn the art, it def takes a certain personality and type of person to think that way. 
  

I agree! I think these platforms are making the type of education one used to expect from an internship accessible to everyone. What you miss out on in being able to ask direct questions (which is a lot to lose...), you at least gain in time management, replay-ability of the lesson, and not cleaning toilets for free!!

I’m fortunate to be in a metropolitan area where studios still exist and was able to get an internship. For someone living up in Timbuk Tu, this would be invaluable

Check the free stuff before you commit, but IMO if you can't get your money's worth you are either incredibly advanced in the art, or you're not concentrating ; or you value money not far below family/breathing/enlightenment.😆🙃
Cheers, Ross

I've been doing Puremix and enjoying it, mostly. I was a read-a-little/experiment-a-lot kind of guy, never having worked in a studio full time, so I think I fit their target customer pretty well. And although I've worked on a number of projects before this, I know what I've learned through Puremix would have helped me build better mixes and likely work a lot faster. Your previous experience level might mean a different experience for you, though.

Learning many of the different workflow templates was great. It was not completely new to me, but many of the approaches engineers taught were things I had not considered. And just learning what these pro mixers use to get work done was helpful and confirming of many things I had already been doing.

I'd say some of the lessons are better organized than others. Some people ramble a lot on things that just aren't really teaching anyone who's already made it to Puremix anything. While others are very specific and quick to explain what they use and why. I admit I've taken notes on most of the lessons and have had to review things when trying to do some mixes myself.

IMO those Videos are interesting if you are not able to get consistent (sounding like a record/song) output mixing wise.
For example, if your goal is a dark sounding mix, and you get a dark sounding mix = mission accomplished.

In my experience I am often unsatisfied with mixes when I don't feel, that the arrangement is not good enough.

MWTM is excellent value for the money. Definitely the next best thing to working with a well-known pro in person. Being able to hear/reference excellent raw recordings made by top names is an invaluable tool, and seeing the wild, unconventional mixing choices they make is a always great reminder to stop obsessing over sh*t that doesn't matter and just use your f*cking ears. I get more out of a single MWTM course than I do in a month on Gearslutz.

The same goes for Eric Valentine's YT stuff, as well as Ken Andrews' new channel. PureMix and Nail The Mix are great, too. I would have killed for resources like these 10 years ago. Super grateful!

Do they have any videos where they mix for 3 hours, try to put it together and it sucks so they start all over? I’d like to see how they decide what approach they decided to keep and why they stopped there. I haven’t bought any vids yet because all the free ones I’ve seen I’m like “oh that’s nice” and they are not happy.. then they tweak more and I’m like “oh that sucks, they ruined it” and they stop and say “it’s perfect now”. But it gets done, they are 100% confident it’s exactly right, I’m thinking.. actually I liked it the other way?

so elmhirst mixing of adele ain't t a good video? i was interested in seeing that. and a chad blake one.

Sorry if I sounded overly negative,.. It’s great and enlightening to hear their thought process and see how they build stuff up. I should probably buy in.
as I’m sure I’d learn a lot of new stuff. Everyone seems to find what works for them and it’s very interesting sometimes! What I meant in my earlier comment was.. I think for a lot of folks like us, it would be especially cool to see them take on a mix from scratch, go on adventure to a sound that doesn’t work.. finish it up to their liking and explain why it won’t fly with the artist/record labels. And then explain where the problem areas are and what the next revision will have to chase after. I think we see them re-create what worked, and excellent tricks are great to know we are using the right tools, ...maybe they work/maybe not. It makes a lot of sense to me they have to remix and remix over and over for today’s instant gratification consumer. So when they show ‘I did x because of y’, that’s great to know but I sometimes wonder was there 20 revisions before that slowly taught them that was the best path? I figure it probably was in most cases