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Post by veloce on Dec 18, 2019 10:25:52 GMT -6
Anyone have experience with these two? I’m interested in picking up a pair of 312’s and am wondering if a pair of the Heiders are worth the extra $600 or so over the 312 Platinums with the custom components. I realize that they are both great.
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Post by Blackdawg on Dec 18, 2019 10:38:30 GMT -6
Check out for yourself here: capi-gear.com/catalog/Aud_vid_clips.phpSome good clips to hear the difference via youtube or you can DL the files yourself. I personally think the Heider 312 and Platinum VP28 are the best sounding preamps Jeff sells. I hope to own a couple of each.
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Post by Johnkenn on Dec 18, 2019 10:38:31 GMT -6
Hmm. I think the 312’s might be a little more refined on the top? Not quite as punchy. Really can’t go wrong with the 312’s.
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Post by nomatic on Dec 19, 2019 7:45:54 GMT -6
The Platinum 312s are my preference in the test video.....
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Post by EmRR on Dec 19, 2019 8:31:29 GMT -6
The Heider is a matching input impedance instead of the typical bridging input impedance, so the loading on the mic signal will do different things to different mics. Actual input Z is 167 or 300 (or is it 334?) ohms as opposed to typical 1500+, or even well above 10K with things like the AEA ribbon preamps. Even with the pad on, it's 765 ohms input. The sort of change you expect when moving from a dynamic to a condenser on the same source may vary more greatly than on a typical preamp because of the loading difference. The heavier loading will to varying degrees lower the output level of the mics, so it's possible if recording very quiet sounds at high gains that another preamp type would win the S/N contest; there you might prefer the standard 312. With dynamic mics a 6 dB/oct LPF at some frequency is created with matching loading, so you may find a more mid-centric air-lean result with some mics. Steve Dove writes about matching loads with microphones in the Handbook for Sound Engineers : The New Audio Cyclopedia.
Now, the obvious major difference is the Heider is structured like a VP28, more gain stages, extra transformer.
Both of those use the different input transformer which I believe has some nickel content, unlike the standard line. Less transformer distortion at both low and high signal levels.
"Yeah, but what's it sound like?" For you to decide.....
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Post by veloce on Dec 19, 2019 11:02:43 GMT -6
Thanks for the info Doug!
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