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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 22, 2019 7:14:31 GMT -6
Hey, I often seen various width natural wood planking in studio builds. With slats and spacing in between and thick insulation behind I understand it’s a sort of helmbomtz if sealed.
I understand wood has its own acoustic properties.
WHat’s people’s thinking about this ?
I’ve been thinking about it or bamboo , it’s naturally round or half round state would facilitate dispersion and slots would allow sound to pass through for absorption?
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Post by jcoutu1 on Nov 22, 2019 8:22:37 GMT -6
My man Mike at Wachusett recently redid his control room with a bunch of wood planking. Looks great. Not sure what they've got going on behind the the wood, but man it looks good. I'm sure you could reach out to him on Insta or FB. http://instagram.com/p/BqXj8scFvMs
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Post by svart on Nov 22, 2019 8:30:54 GMT -6
Hey, I often seen various width natural wood planking in studio builds. With slats and spacing in between and thick insulation behind I understand it’s a sort of helmbomtz if sealed. I understand wood has its own acoustic properties. WHat’s people’s thinking about this ? I’ve been thinking about it or bamboo , it’s naturally round or half round state would facilitate dispersion and slots would allow sound to pass through for absorption? The wood slat widths and the widths of the open areas determine the cutoff frequencies of the absorption and reflection. The wood slat thickness can also make a huge difference too, and also determine if the wood will resonate at all. The reason that acoustic guitars and wood instruments use certain types of wood and certain thicknesses is because those are optimal for resonation. Thicker or thinner woods, or those with different hardnesses won't resonate freely. Also, a few very scientific tests have proven that "tone wood" is mostly a myth in electric guitars, where the wood is much too thick to resonate freely anyway. I'd think that the thickness of slats used in studio walls wouldn't really cause much timbre change at all. As for bamboo, the size of the arc would determine some of the frequency of dispersion I would think.
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Post by schmalzy on Nov 22, 2019 10:15:26 GMT -6
Here's a cool room with a load of wood slats in it. His stuff always sounds good so use this photo as you see fit!
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 22, 2019 11:56:00 GMT -6
Ya baby: sonicerriffec!!
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 22, 2019 11:56:59 GMT -6
Nice pansl gobos over his corner bass traps !
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Post by woofhead on Nov 22, 2019 14:20:32 GMT -6
That looks like old growth yellow pine probably salvaged from a late 1800's building.I found a big pile of 3x10's like this in a dumpster around the corner and plan to rip them down into 1x6, 1x3, etc like this looks great!Pretty dense wood much denser than modern pine.This came from trees cut down 120 to 140 years ago before mass building began and the trees themselves were much older than whats used for lumber you can buy now.Ive been wondering how the density of the wood affects the reflective properties
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Post by christopher on Nov 22, 2019 14:26:44 GMT -6
off topic but it’s not commonly known that when it comes to electric guitars, the modern finish kills the tone, so any would be ‘tone wood’ advantages are destroyed by the finish. Unfinished is apparently the best sounding, followed by the 50s style thin nitro finishes, which I’ve only seen from custom builders.
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Post by christopher on Nov 22, 2019 14:29:22 GMT -6
That looks like old growth yellow pine probably salvaged from a late 1800's building.I found a big pile of 3x10's like this in a dumpster around the corner and plan to rip them down into 1x6, 1x3, etc like this looks great!Pretty dense wood much denser than modern pine.This came from trees cut down 120 to 140 years ago before mass building began and the trees themselves were much older than whats used for lumber you can buy now.Ive been wondering how the density of the wood affects the reflective properties 3x10? Maybe you could make some electric bodies? Original Fenders were old growth pine. I’ve tried new pine, sounds incredible, very throaty and super open, thin nitro finish of course.. Makes me wish for old growth .LOL (a sentence that I didn’t think I’d ever write).
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Post by woofhead on Nov 22, 2019 16:49:34 GMT -6
Ill keep that in mind if I find some more and grab some short pieces.I only took lengths longer than 3 feet and its more common around here to see short pieces thrown away.Salvage guys have gotten hip to to the fact theres a demand for owld wood and grab it quickly often.I dont drive but saw this pile close by and was able to grab it with a dolly but Ive seen people with a truck looking for it out of dumsters.Let me know if you want me to look out and if you like send it tyou..not a luthier myself just a carpenter.Remind from time if you like and perhaps I'll have some ends after im done.What length is good?
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 22, 2019 16:54:52 GMT -6
Up here they use to run logs on the river, lots sunk, so there is a company that hauls them out, then they dry them out and mill them. Water at bottom is very cold so the logs are essentially in stasis. Mostly, they make furniture from them: wood looks great !
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Post by wiz on Nov 22, 2019 17:14:10 GMT -6
I misread the title... I thought this was going to be about porn...
dang
Wiz
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 22, 2019 17:16:21 GMT -6
We are getting to that, but, so far, they are all buying it though:, cue bugs bunny, “what rubes “!
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Post by saltyjames on Nov 22, 2019 21:44:51 GMT -6
Did someone mention wood in the studio? There is this place...
Be sure to go to the bottom of each page as it has links for all the different room views.
You're welcome. And, boys, please clean up when you are done, girls too!
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Post by Bat Lanyard on Nov 23, 2019 0:09:50 GMT -6
Hey, I often seen various width natural wood planking in studio builds. With slats and spacing in between and thick insulation behind I understand it’s a sort of helmbomtz if sealed. I understand wood has its own acoustic properties. WHat’s people’s thinking about this ? I’ve been thinking about it or bamboo , it’s naturally round or half round state would facilitate dispersion and slots would allow sound to pass through for absorption? My whole room is wood on the walls (and floor). Simple birch ply cut into strips. I just kept adding until it sounded good. Varied the patterns.
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Post by drumrec on Nov 23, 2019 4:41:52 GMT -6
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 23, 2019 8:25:51 GMT -6
Nice, untreated pine with absorption behind ?
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Post by craigmorris74 on Nov 23, 2019 8:56:11 GMT -6
Love the shots of all your rooms. The wood looks great. I'm a construction novice-what would I type in to search for wood that would be suitable for studio walls?
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Post by soundintheround on Nov 23, 2019 9:23:43 GMT -6
People claim they can control some specific target frequency....but I'm not so sure about that.... Good luck if thats the case.
I think the general idea of why this works, is you put up as much super thick basstrap broadband absorption as you can to help even out the room. Then rather than it sounding like an anechoic chamber in there, you add some wood panels over top which brings back a little reflection and life/tone to the room. Thats my take on it.
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 23, 2019 9:44:24 GMT -6
It’s not the wood it’s the gap distance and wood thickness that let’s you tune to specific frequency using a helmholtz resonator tool.
The wood must also have it’s on coefficient of absorption and act somewhat as a diffuser, if using different sizes of wood.
All together, with BB and bass traps as stated above you can create a more linear and pleasing sounding room, flatter, but warm rather than sterile ?
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 23, 2019 9:58:56 GMT -6
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Post by din on Nov 23, 2019 10:27:38 GMT -6
I did it in my live room using the Newell distribution. It provides for an optimal mix of diffusion and absorption. Really makes a room sound great!
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Post by saltyjames on Nov 23, 2019 11:04:17 GMT -6
Dualing drummer. Digital tape measure. Nice floor. So, what's above that drop ceiling? 2-3 inches to the bottom of the floor joists? With insulation? If so, I had a temporary room like that for 2 years and it sounded great in there! If i recall correctly regarding Overheads: Omni mics worked great with that type of room setup. So did fig 8. Cardioid was congested sometimes.
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Post by din on Nov 23, 2019 22:03:41 GMT -6
I kind of overdid it in the ceiling because there are two bedrooms above. It goes 2 inches of Knauf ceiling tiles > 4 inch air gap > a pair of 5/8" drywall sheets green glued together, which is screwed into hat channel hanging from the joists above via RSIC-1 clips > small air gap > 3" safe'n'sound between the joists > 3 inch air gap > the floor above.
Wow! You're dead-on about the over heads. After a great deal of experimentation, I've been surprised to find that a pair Earthworks omni condensers sounds amazing in there--for overheads and room sounds. Ribbons also work really well, but I've not had much luck w/ cardiod, unless I do it Glynn John's style--that actually sounded really cool.
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Post by saltyjames on Nov 24, 2019 0:17:53 GMT -6
Thanks! It means a lot to me to know this stuff so well. But it's not like I'm gifted.
I mean look how big my fvcking ears are!!
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