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Post by kcatthedog on Oct 15, 2019 9:40:20 GMT -6
Live link today in a couple of hours
Tighter integration with ua console, 10 faders, transport, pan, 2 console emulations, etc.!
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Post by keymod on Oct 15, 2019 9:59:20 GMT -6
This just might force me to buy the combo of Console & Fader
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Post by kcatthedog on Oct 15, 2019 13:22:05 GMT -6
The integration is impressive.
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Post by Quint on Oct 15, 2019 13:50:02 GMT -6
$699 is a lot for what that does, at least of what I've seen so far, but I'll reserve judgement until I hear what sort of integration it will have with Apollo Console.
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Post by kcatthedog on Oct 15, 2019 14:06:32 GMT -6
Ya, seems a little high, . but it does include 2 console plug emulations?
But you’ll have the 2 consoles at $12-1300 usd plus the other emulations ( API, neve?), so flirting with 2 grand, give or take?
I had a faderport 8 and 16 and the original Console mkii and w liked them but sold them all too
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Post by Quint on Oct 15, 2019 14:11:29 GMT -6
Ya, seems a little high, . but it does include 2 console plug emulations? But you’ll have the 2 consoles at $12-1300 usd plus the other emulations ( API, neve?), so flirting with 2 grand, give or take? I had a faderport 8 and 16 and the original Console mkii and w liked them but sold them all too It would need TIGHT integration with Apollo Console for me to consider it. At that price, I'm likely not interested, regardless. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Oct 15, 2019 14:26:43 GMT -6
Agreed, I found the controller efficiency thing a bit of an illusion, if you like it, great, but you do have to learn the controller and interact with it or just click/ move something in your daw?
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Post by wiz on Oct 15, 2019 18:04:00 GMT -6
I havent sold my console 1 as yet, and will probably keep it.
I have bought many fader/contro surfaces and have ended up selling them all..... Presonus,Frontier, Behringer.... I end up not using all the faders to write automation and get sick of them being in front of me on my desk.
I have been using my iPad with logic to do fader rides, which I usually only do two faders at a time at most....
cheers
Wiz
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Post by kcatthedog on Oct 15, 2019 18:33:31 GMT -6
Todd, the sort of Softtube/Ua guy, confirmed at ua forum today that ya and softube are working on a major release and Drew seems to have indicated he has already seen the console fader controlling faders in UA console gui.
At least, they seem to be doing the right thing, wonder if new release will come before Christmas, that would sure boost sales.
I just open up logic automation lane in region and do everything manually, while looping section: works great and you know exactly how it sounds!
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Post by wiz on Oct 15, 2019 19:40:20 GMT -6
Todd, the sort of Softtube/Ua guy, confirmed at ua forum today that ya and softube are working on a major release and Drew seems to have indicated he has already seen the console fader controlling faders in UA console gui. At least, they seem to be doing the right thing, wonder if new release will come before Christmas, that would sure boost sales. I just open up logic automation lane in region and do everything manually, while looping section: works great and you know exactly how it sounds! I start at the beginning of the song.... loop each section, verse , chorus etc and run the section over and over till i have it right, using the iPad, hitting Ctrl Z if I screw a pass.. .then save and move till the next section... works great. Cheers Wiz |
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Post by johneppstein on Oct 15, 2019 19:56:33 GMT -6
$699 is a lot for what that does, at least of what I've seen so far, but I'll reserve judgement until I hear what sort of integration it will have with Apollo Console. You can buy a decent real console used for that these days and get EQ and summing. And twice the channels. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Oct 16, 2019 6:42:26 GMT -6
Yes, but this is automatable and 100 m alps motorized faders, so giving a digital, recallable experience and 2 console emulations, so also good value?
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Post by kcatthedog on Oct 16, 2019 6:43:40 GMT -6
The “other” UA shoe drops ? Drew posted today at ua forum about a special UA livestream: UA Livestream Special Event Mark your calendars...... www.uaudio.com/live |
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Post by brenta on Oct 16, 2019 7:23:33 GMT -6
The “other” UA shoe drops ? Drew posted today at ua forum about a special UA livestream: UA Livestream Special Event Mark your calendars...... www.uaudio.com/liveA new Apollo Twin. I assume it will have the new X converters but I wonder if there will be any other changes. As for the Softube Fader, it seems like it would be cool if I wasn’t a Pro Tools user. For Pro Tools you would have a mix within a mix, which for me is a workflow nightmare. All of Softube’s stuff sound phenomenal though and I’m sure these new console emulations do too. |
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Post by adamjbrass on Oct 16, 2019 8:44:39 GMT -6
$699 is a lot for what that does, at least of what I've seen so far, but I'll reserve judgement until I hear what sort of integration it will have with Apollo Console. You can buy a decent real console used for that these days and get EQ and summing. And twice the channels. you are missing the point of this device. But its ok. You are obviously not a digital-native. |
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Post by soundintheround on Oct 16, 2019 10:55:43 GMT -6
Still love my Console 2.
But already have a Fader solution via Mackie MCU Pro, so prob not so interested (for now).
However, I think this product will be successful.
The tangible hands-on fader is something so trivial, yet so overlooked in the days of DAW.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Oct 16, 2019 13:04:36 GMT -6
Does the Fader have higher resolution that the faders in a DAW? Perhaps it's a bit more fun just reaching for a fader than using a mouse, but is that really worth $700?
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Post by sirthought on Oct 16, 2019 13:26:03 GMT -6
I can see the workflow giving you faster operation with this. It's not just volume that's controlled on the faders. A quick button to change the parameters and you can control input gain, drives, hi/lo pass filtering, returns, etc. Once you learn the layout it should be faster than a keyboard and mouse.
But it's all tied to Softtube and I have invested in lots of other plugin options. So the money invested in a Console One setup isn't really giving me control over my whole ITB engineering. If you invest in an analog console I can see you being all in with that single setup, but for ITB?
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Post by mrholmes on Oct 16, 2019 13:32:26 GMT -6
I can see the workflow giving you faster operation with this. It's not just volume that's controlled on the faders. A quick button to change the parameters and you can control input gain, drives, hi/lo pass filtering, returns, etc. Once you learn the layout it should be faster than a keyboard and mouse. But it's all tied to Softtube and I have invested in lots of other plugin options. So the money invested in a Console One setup isn't really giving me control over my whole ITB engineering. If you invest in an analog console I can see you being all in with that single setup, but for ITB?
I think the concept is tempting but I too want to have control over third party plug ins too. I rejected on my Slate MTI idea and came back to the iPad which is still the best solution to get half decent hands on feel.
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Post by sirthought on Oct 16, 2019 14:02:33 GMT -6
came back to the iPad which is still the best solution to get half decent hands on feel.
Which DAW do you mostly use? I hear Studio One is very multi-touch friendly. My DAW, Logic, isn't so much. I'd guess Cubase would work well on iPad too, but I don't own an iPad. I am really looking at this Softtube option, but I want to learn more. Don't have the funds right now. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Oct 16, 2019 14:59:22 GMT -6
A faderport 16 can be mapped to 3rd party plug ins, has motorized faders and is automatable, a little more new but about the same used and has more features.
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Post by Mister Chase on Oct 16, 2019 16:43:51 GMT -6
I was thinking a faderport 8 to go with my C1... but maybe this instead. Hmmmmm. Will have to look into that.
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Post by mrholmes on Oct 17, 2019 1:57:51 GMT -6
came back to the iPad which is still the best solution to get half decent hands on feel.
Which DAW do you mostly use? I hear Studio One is very multi-touch friendly. My DAW, Logic, isn't so much. I'd guess Cubase would work well on iPad too, but I don't own an iPad. I am really looking at this Softtube option, but I want to learn more. Don't have the funds right now. I use logic too and I use the app DAW control which simulates a Mackie controller...works very very good. |
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