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Post by Martin John Butler on Jul 28, 2013 23:52:17 GMT -6
The finest microphone I've ever had the pleasure of using was an original C12. At the time I didn't pay close attention to these things, so it could have been a Telefunken or an AKG, I suspect AKG, it had a golden hue. I've seen and heard about many clones, but can't seem to find consensus, a shootout, or a definitive answer to the question, which C12 clone is considered the best. I bought the Blackspade U17, (essentially, a Telefunken AK47 mk. II), mainly because I could hear the family resemblance, even though they are obviously different.
So, what do you guys like in C12 clones?
I'd love to know which one is considered the best , and which one is the best bang for little bucks.
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Post by tonycamphd on Jul 29, 2013 2:37:43 GMT -6
here is an exact replica of the akg c12 circuit, the alctron ht11a is about as close as a reasonably priced donor mike body and psu case can be, put a tim campbell capsule in this, and studio 939 c12 headbasket, and you will be blown away! it sounds stupid good my friend! www.groupdiy.com/index.php?topic=51377.0 |
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jul 29, 2013 8:20:45 GMT -6
Hey thanks Tony. I've gotta run now, but I'll take a closer look at that link later on tonight. I noticed a link to a site with many parts available. Can you save me a little time and suggest the best set of components I'd need to get it done, hopefully under $500, but preferably, under $300. My Blackspade can be upgraded with a Thiersch capsule for around $650. I'd love to do that, but at that price, it 's not easy figuring out if I'd be better served keeping the U17 as is, and adding another mic to the family. Any suggestions, insights and opinions are welcomed.
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Post by svart on Jul 29, 2013 9:38:37 GMT -6
Apex 460 with a capsule change and a slight modification to the circuit?
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Post by dandeurloo on Jul 29, 2013 11:39:14 GMT -6
Great capsules are a must and are not cheap. Tim makes an amazing c12 capsule. I have one in my AA CM12se and it really is great. I think the best bang for buck is Chunger's C12 kit with a great capsule.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jul 29, 2013 15:29:48 GMT -6
Thanks Dan, never heard of Chunger, is there a site or link you know of where I can see what's up with that?
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Post by tonycamphd on Jul 29, 2013 23:13:57 GMT -6
Martin, see six posts up, counting this one for the link, Chungers thread has links to all necessary parts, and yes, this is a bitchn mic, and dans also right(again) Tim campbell CT12 capsule is unreal good, i got 2 of them. Tim has a looooooong waiting list though, he doesn't make you pay until you come to the top of the queue and he's ready to send em.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jul 29, 2013 23:17:59 GMT -6
Thanks Tony, I'll check it out tomorrow, getting sleepy now..
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Post by jimwilliams on Jul 30, 2013 10:55:03 GMT -6
Apex 460 = $189
Microphone Parts rk-12 capsule, $99
The knowledge to optimize the cathode follower circuit = priceless.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jul 30, 2013 12:15:37 GMT -6
Thanks Jim, that does look tasty. I sent a note to Tim Campbell asking for some info and details on his mods. I'll more than likely do this in the late fall. In the summer, I'm out of work and can only spend on essentials.
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Post by tonycamphd on Jul 30, 2013 13:05:12 GMT -6
Thanks Jim, that does look tasty. I sent a note to Tim Campbell asking for some info and details on his mods. I'll more than likely do this in the late fall. In the summer, I'm out of work and can only spend on essentials. Martin, Tim Campbell makes C12 replica condenser capsules, he does not do mods, oh, and he takes forever to get back to you, you would simply place an order with him, and wait, he's golden. Chunger/matador are the men behind the c12 replica, via the above link. read the beginning of that thread should clarify things hope this helps |
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jul 30, 2013 15:47:20 GMT -6
It does, thanks Tony, I gotta get to work now, will do more research later.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2013 16:20:58 GMT -6
Chunger is a super hero! I can't imagine doing my LC53A build without his photographic walkthrough.
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Post by tonycamphd on Jul 30, 2013 17:32:25 GMT -6
Chunger is a super hero! I can't imagine doing my LC53A build without his photographic walkthrough. amen to that! mk47 psu also! |
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jul 31, 2013 8:39:04 GMT -6
Do you guys know approximately how much Tim Campbell's capsules sell for? I took a look at his home page, did the calculations, and it seems to be $350, am I wrong?
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Post by tonycamphd on Jul 31, 2013 11:04:32 GMT -6
Do you guys know approximately how much Tim Campbell's capsules sell for? I took a look at his home page, did the calculations, and it seems to be $350, am I wrong? that is the ball park + shipping i believe? good move btw, get your mic completely situated and fully functional before you put that baby in there(to protect it from build mistakes, and for effect), it will sound really nice with the donor capsule, then put the TC capsule in there, and it will sound like a record! it's an amazing capsule, and from what i understand, the most difficult to build. Tims an artist for sure. |
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jul 31, 2013 13:45:20 GMT -6
ahh, thanks bro, much appreciated.
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Post by crash on Aug 20, 2013 8:19:49 GMT -6
Do you guys know approximately how much Tim Campbell's capsules sell for? I took a look at his home page, did the calculations, and it seems to be $350, am I wrong? That number sounds like the one I came up with last time I did the monetary conversion. I have always wondered if an old AKG 414 B-ULS would benefit from one of those C-12 replica capsules. |
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Post by brianellefson on Aug 20, 2013 9:46:23 GMT -6
Oh damn. I've got an AA CM12 and it sounds like one of those capsules would light it up. Hmm. Must check em out.
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Post by tonycamphd on Aug 20, 2013 10:39:41 GMT -6
I put a TC capsule in a rode K2 that i modded the heck out of, it was really nice before the capsule, and amazing after the install. The first thing i notice when i'm checking out a mic, is mouth noises, you know, lip smacks, tongue noise? If the mic makes that stuff sound pretty, you know possibly on to something, the k2/TC capsule sounds amazing IMO
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Post by Martin John Butler on Aug 20, 2013 20:20:50 GMT -6
Good tip Tony.
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Post by category5 on Aug 20, 2013 22:44:11 GMT -6
Do you guys know approximately how much Tim Campbell's capsules sell for? I took a look at his home page, did the calculations, and it seems to be $350, am I wrong? That's it Martin, plus any duties and shipping costs. With Tim's capsule paying for it is actually the easy part. The wait is killer! |
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Post by Martin John Butler on Aug 20, 2013 23:21:46 GMT -6
Hey Shane, good to see you bro.
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Post by kcatthedog on Aug 24, 2013 17:53:04 GMT -6
Mjb
no that is the price most likely plus shipping, you could most likely get your capsule replaced with a campbell one
essentially there are two options, the microphone parts aphex 460 mod is abut $4-500 USD or $600 if you get the new ati transformer like the original, ( including buying a new aphex 460)
chunger is roughly a grand with the campbell capsule ( also including buying the new aphex 460 donor mike)
these are the sites cat 5 has told us about
kat
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Post by drmusic on Nov 14, 2013 10:16:21 GMT -6
Anyone heard the Avantone CV-12? LOOKS LIKE BUTTER!!!
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