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Post by sean on Sept 13, 2019 19:46:08 GMT -6
So, looking for insight into how to properly do this.
I have Pro Tools Ultimate, running an HD Native rig, with Avid HD I/Os. If I use a hardware insert on a track itself, delay is compensated correctly. However, if I want to send multiple tracks to one piece of outboard, I get latency. I've tried using Aux Returns, Audio Tracks, using the I/O the hardware is connect to as the Send and returning it to an audio and an aux track...and it's out all of time and phasey.
What's the solution? I thought with HD/Ultimate and Avid interfaces this was all calculated for you?
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Post by trakworxmastering on Sept 13, 2019 20:11:08 GMT -6
Did you try using an I/O insert on an aux track that you bus the signals to?
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Post by sean on Sept 13, 2019 20:22:52 GMT -6
Yes, still have the same issue.
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Post by sean on Sept 13, 2019 20:46:26 GMT -6
I think I might have found a solution.
I was having the output of each track be Pro Tools 1/2 (the default monitor path). But, when I make the output a buss that feeds an AUX return with that output as 1/2, the latency is compensated correctly.
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Post by sean on Sept 13, 2019 21:13:46 GMT -6
Maybe I'm too tired to really work through it the way I want but it's making more sense!
I think how I'll have to set it up for easy recall is if I have a piece of hardware I want to send multiple tracks to is buss send with a hardware insert on the aux return, then output of that aux return to an audio track, and print that. That way I'm printing my "stem" or whatever. So if I need to open up the session somewhere after finishing a mix it'll be the same. And I guess with enough thought I can make a template that print much prints stems of everything. Just sounds like a lot of extra audio tracks and auxes!
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Post by Blackdawg on Sept 13, 2019 21:30:06 GMT -6
Maybe I'm too tired to really work through it the way I want but it's making more sense! I think how I'll have to set it up for easy recall is if I have a piece of hardware I want to send multiple tracks to is buss send with a hardware insert on the aux return, then output of that aux return to an audio track, and print that. That way I'm printing my "stem" or whatever. So if I need to open up the session somewhere after finishing a mix it'll be the same. And I guess with enough thought I can make a template that print much prints stems of everything. Just sounds like a lot of extra audio tracks and auxes! Just do this for your whole mix. Make and Aux named "Sub Master". Have all audio tracks Bus to the track directly. Make a stereo Audio track and name it "Print_SONGXXX"(I use the name of the track Im mixing). Route the output of the Sub Master track to the input of the Print track. |
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Post by drbill on Sept 13, 2019 21:37:17 GMT -6
Glad you figured it out Sean!!
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Post by sean on Sept 13, 2019 21:46:26 GMT -6
I guess one thing I need to try, and maybe it'll become obvious, is something like my SPX90 which is mono input, stereo output. Since hardware inserts are 1 to 1, how do I deal with that delay?
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Post by Blackdawg on Sept 13, 2019 21:57:06 GMT -6
I guess one thing I need to try, and maybe it'll become obvious, is something like my SPX90 which is mono input, stereo output. Since hardware inserts are 1 to 1, how do I deal with that delay? Treat it like a real aux send. So you'll need 2 Aux tracks. 1 mono for the send 1 Stereo for the return. Just set the actual output of the Mono Aux to whatever output you patch to the input of the SPX90. Patch the output of the SPX90 to the input of the Stereo Aux track...or Audio track If you want to print it to have forever. Can just leave Input monitoring on until you are really done with the mix. |
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Post by sean on Sept 13, 2019 22:20:17 GMT -6
I guess one thing I need to try, and maybe it'll become obvious, is something like my SPX90 which is mono input, stereo output. Since hardware inserts are 1 to 1, how do I deal with that delay? Treat it like a real aux send. So you'll need 2 Aux tracks. 1 mono for the send 1 Stereo for the return. Just set the actual output of the Mono Aux to whatever output you patch to the input of the SPX90. Patch the output of the SPX90 to the input of the Stereo Aux track...or Audio track If you want to print it to have forever. Can just leave Input monitoring on until you are really done with the mix. And Pro Tools will know to compensate for the delay? |
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Post by Blackdawg on Sept 14, 2019 0:46:28 GMT -6
Treat it like a real aux send. So you'll need 2 Aux tracks. 1 mono for the send 1 Stereo for the return. Just set the actual output of the Mono Aux to whatever output you patch to the input of the SPX90. Patch the output of the SPX90 to the input of the Stereo Aux track...or Audio track If you want to print it to have forever. Can just leave Input monitoring on until you are really done with the mix. And Pro Tools will know to compensate for the delay? It should yes. |
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Post by thirdeye on Sept 14, 2019 6:52:57 GMT -6
I guess one thing I need to try, and maybe it'll become obvious, is something like my SPX90 which is mono input, stereo output. Since hardware inserts are 1 to 1, how do I deal with that delay? I just use a stereo hardware insert and ignore the unused input. |
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Post by chris on Sept 14, 2019 20:46:15 GMT -6
I guess one thing I need to try, and maybe it'll become obvious, is something like my SPX90 which is mono input, stereo output. Since hardware inserts are 1 to 1, how do I deal with that delay? Treat it like a real aux send. So you'll need 2 Aux tracks. 1 mono for the send 1 Stereo for the return. Just set the actual output of the Mono Aux to whatever output you patch to the input of the SPX90. Patch the output of the SPX90 to the input of the Stereo Aux track...or Audio track If you want to print it to have forever. Can just leave Input monitoring on until you are really done with the mix. You will have latency with an audio track on input |
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Post by jeremygillespie on Sept 14, 2019 21:05:20 GMT -6
Treat it like a real aux send. So you'll need 2 Aux tracks. 1 mono for the send 1 Stereo for the return. Just set the actual output of the Mono Aux to whatever output you patch to the input of the SPX90. Patch the output of the SPX90 to the input of the Stereo Aux track...or Audio track If you want to print it to have forever. Can just leave Input monitoring on until you are really done with the mix. And Pro Tools will know to compensate for the delay? Built in pre-delay! |
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