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Post by lpedrum on Jul 21, 2019 13:30:44 GMT -6
I recently had more time than usual to travel down the dark hole of youtube and stumbled onto HAINBACH. At first I thought I might be watching some sort of parody, but soon discovered that he's a very cool, musical German dude that investigates all sorts of alternative ways to create mostly ambient music. His latest kick is finding old audio test equipment to create and filter tones. The Hainbach link above is an old tube frequency analyzer and he demonstrates how great it works as a band pass filter. Which leads to a question--is anyone making a 500 series band pass filter? I find plenty of EQs and hi and low pass filters, but no pedal or 500 series unit that really focuses in on band passing. Is there anything out there that sounds good at a reasonable price? (I know I can do it with software, but really love the idea of recording with the filter.) |
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Post by sean on Jul 21, 2019 13:58:34 GMT -6
Radial Tossover?
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Post by lpedrum on Jul 21, 2019 14:07:55 GMT -6
I wondered about that too. But I'm not finding any Tossover videos that really go into the various ways it can be used. |
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Post by ragan on Jul 21, 2019 19:00:54 GMT -6
Is there anything out there that sounds good at a reasonable price? (I know I can do it with software, but really love the idea of recording with the filter.) A wah pedal. |
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Post by lpedrum on Jul 21, 2019 19:37:48 GMT -6
Is there anything out there that sounds good at a reasonable price? (I know I can do it with software, but really love the idea of recording with the filter.) A wah pedal. True, and I suppose the EHX Cockfight too if you're going that route. But the band pass shaping is pretty limited I would think, and wah pedals can be noisy beasts. I'm talking about something that I can plug a mic into, or insert it into the chain such as with the 500 series. |
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Post by johneppstein on Jul 21, 2019 20:18:15 GMT -6
Meh.
RCA Labs?
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Post by lpedrum on Jul 21, 2019 20:48:21 GMT -6
You don't dig the beauty of ambient German music made with test equipment? I'm shocked! |
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Post by johneppstein on Jul 21, 2019 21:39:04 GMT -6
You don't dig the beauty of ambient German music made with test equipment? I'm shocked! You don't know about the electronic music coming out of RCA Labs in the '50s/60s and the BBC in the '60s? I'm REALLY shocked.
Anything coming out of Germany or anywhere else now, using that technology, is just a rehash of what I was listening to in the '60s.
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Post by lpedrum on Jul 21, 2019 22:06:11 GMT -6
You don't dig the beauty of ambient German music made with test equipment? I'm shocked! You don't know about the electronic music coming out of RCA Labs in the '50s/60s and the BBC in the '60s? I'm REALLY shocked.
Anything coming out of Germany or anywhere else now, using that technology, is just a rehash of what I was listening to in the '60s.
To my ears the similarities stop at them both being electronic. But that one link wasn't really the point of my thread--I was intrigued by how deep Hainbach has pursued alternative ways of recording sound and creating music. If you listen to this video at the 9:00 mark of an old test microphone with an attached filter and are not moved by the beauty of what it does to an upright piano, then I guess we'd just have to agree to disagree!
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Post by shoe on Jul 21, 2019 22:29:47 GMT -6
Thanks for sharing these videos. I love what he's doing. It's also very relaxing for me.
As for pedals with a bandpass, the only ones I can think of off the top of my head are digital. Source Audio's new C4 has really robust filtering effects accessible via their editing software, and then the other that comes to mind (less robust) is the Strymon Mobius' filter mode. I don't think either will sound like that old test equipment, but they can both do some cool stuff.
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Post by johneppstein on Jul 22, 2019 0:12:15 GMT -6
You don't know about the electronic music coming out of RCA Labs in the '50s/60s and the BBC in the '60s? I'm REALLY shocked.
Anything coming out of Germany or anywhere else now, using that technology, is just a rehash of what I was listening to in the '60s.
To my ears the similarities stop at them both being electronic. But that one link wasn't really the point of my thread--I was intrigued by how deep Hainbach has pursued alternative ways of recording sound and creating music. If you listen to this video at the 9:00 mark of an old test microphone with an attached filter and are not moved by the beauty of what it does to an upright piano, then I guess we'd just have to agree to disagree!
That's pretty cool! However I don't think it's really different than a lot of stuff that people were doing in the '60s and, a bit later, in the early '70s when modular synths became available and people started applying synths and audio lab gear to processing "natural" sounds. It's been a long time since I was really involved in that so I don't really remember many names, but there's a long, deep, and rich history behind it, going back to early electronic music using lab filters and oscillators, and what was known as musique concrete. There were several centers that were working on parallel aspects of this, in the states some of the people at RCA labs and UC Berkeley, along with other places, in Britain the BBC (I forget the lady's name at the moment but she's quite famous), as well as people working in France and Germany. In Germany one branch of it evolved into "Krautrock". In SF in the late '70s another branch lead to an "electropunk" movement that never attracted too much attention outside the area. There was a parallel movement on the east coast around NYC.
It seems like every 15 or 20 years somebody rediscovers it and thinks they have something new but it's really just differtent takes on the same basic thing.
If you're into weird, offbeat stuff, are you hip to Harry Partch? He's different - mostly acoustic instruments that he designed and built himself, but very different from pretty much anything else. He was heavily into microtonal scales.
Of course back then there was no internet for people to post videos on.
Apologies for any typos - I don't have my reading glasses on....
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Post by sirthought on Jul 22, 2019 6:06:40 GMT -6
True, and I suppose the EHX Cockfight too if you're going that route. But the band pass shaping is pretty limited I would think, and wah pedals can be noisy beasts. I'm talking about something that I can plug a mic into, or insert it into the chain such as with the 500 series. |
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Post by donr on Jul 22, 2019 9:30:34 GMT -6
Filters are cool.
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