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Post by Omicron9 on Jul 2, 2019 10:36:40 GMT -6
Greetings, snake experts.
Small dilemma for which I seek your input. My current studio is laid out such that I can route snakes (more than one) around the perimeter of the room. They become almost invisible as they're run along the wall in the floor, and they're safe from being trod upon or from tripping me, thus triggering an Olympic exhibition of klutz ballet, followed by a trip to the ER.
Next month, I'm moving to a new studio. Bigger/brigher/better/life is wonderful. I will have the racks in a machine room, and eventually will bury the snakes in the wall with the stage box recessed into the wall, and the run terminating inside the machine room. Snakes and me are both safe, plus the visuals are good.
Here's the problem. Due to scheduling, that won't happen for a couple of months or more. I have two choices for temporary/interim reptile management:
1. Run the snakes across the live room floor into the machine room. See previous equation wherein the ER staff come to know me on a first-name basis.
2. Install hooks high up on the walls above the doors. Run snakage up high, keeping them and me safe and injury-free. Safety abounds; yet visuals are unpleasant at best.
My questions: Have any of you good gentlemen been in a similar situation, and if so, what was your solution?
Many thanks in advance,
-09
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Post by matt@IAA on Jul 2, 2019 10:39:54 GMT -6
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Post by johneppstein on Jul 2, 2019 10:59:09 GMT -6
Greetings, snake experts. Small dilemma for which I seek your input. My current studio is laid out such that I can route snakes (more than one) around the perimeter of the room. They become almost invisible as they're run along the wall in the floor, and they're safe from being trod upon or from tripping me, thus triggering an Olympic exhibition of klutz ballet, followed by a trip to the ER. Next month, I'm moving to a new studio. Bigger/brigher/better/life is wonderful. I will have the racks in a machine room, and eventually will bury the snakes in the wall with the stage box recessed into the wall, and the run terminating inside the machine room. Snakes and me are both safe, plus the visuals are good. Here's the problem. Due to scheduling, that won't happen for a couple of months or more. I have two choices for temporary/interim reptile management: 1. Run the snakes across the live room floor into the machine room. See previous equation wherein the ER staff come to know me on a first-name basis. 2. Install hooks high up on the walls above the doors. Run snakage up high, keeping them and me safe and injury-free. Safety abounds; yet visuals are unpleasant at best. My questions: Have any of you good gentlemen been in a similar situation, and if so, what was your solution? Many thanks in advance, -09 Lots of gaffer tape. Real gaffer tape, not duct tape. Yes it's more expensive, but definitely worth it. |
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Post by svart on Jul 2, 2019 11:15:13 GMT -6
Greetings, snake experts. Small dilemma for which I seek your input. My current studio is laid out such that I can route snakes (more than one) around the perimeter of the room. They become almost invisible as they're run along the wall in the floor, and they're safe from being trod upon or from tripping me, thus triggering an Olympic exhibition of klutz ballet, followed by a trip to the ER. Next month, I'm moving to a new studio. Bigger/brigher/better/life is wonderful. I will have the racks in a machine room, and eventually will bury the snakes in the wall with the stage box recessed into the wall, and the run terminating inside the machine room. Snakes and me are both safe, plus the visuals are good. Here's the problem. Due to scheduling, that won't happen for a couple of months or more. I have two choices for temporary/interim reptile management: 1. Run the snakes across the live room floor into the machine room. See previous equation wherein the ER staff come to know me on a first-name basis. 2. Install hooks high up on the walls above the doors. Run snakage up high, keeping them and me safe and injury-free. Safety abounds; yet visuals are unpleasant at best. My questions: Have any of you good gentlemen been in a similar situation, and if so, what was your solution? Many thanks in advance, -09 I use hooks in the walls about 8" from the floor. Keeps the cables up high enough not to snag your feet, but also high enough to vacuum under. Like such:  |
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Post by Omicron9 on Jul 2, 2019 11:18:22 GMT -6
Great suggestions; thank you.
The problem with gaff-taping them to the floor is that I will still find a way to trip over them.
-09
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Post by johneppstein on Jul 2, 2019 12:04:44 GMT -6
Great suggestions; thank you. The problem with gaff-taping them to the floor is that I will still find a way to trip over them. -09 Use the 4" wide tape. |
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Post by Omicron9 on Jul 2, 2019 16:43:54 GMT -6
Great suggestions; thank you. The problem with gaff-taping them to the floor is that I will still find a way to trip over them. -09 Use the 4" wide tape. Thanks, John. My superpower is that I can trip/fall over virtually nothing and run into things near constantly. Taping it down won't help, but I appreciate the suggestion. I'm sure it's a fine idea for those who can remain upright on their own.  -09 |
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Post by channelcat on Jul 2, 2019 17:42:41 GMT -6
I made floating cable troughs in my old home studio. It was in the basement, and we’d occasionally get water. I bought nylon strapping and plastic buckles from Menards (think dog collar/leash), and cut them in 3 lengths, so that each hang point had 3 troughs. One was for audio cables/snakes, one was for computer/MIDI cables, and one was for electrical cables/extension cords. I got eyelets from Jo-Ann Fabric, and put them in each strap, so I could hang 3 on 1 screw without messing up the integrity of the straps.
Stu
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Post by christopher on Jul 2, 2019 17:58:36 GMT -6
That sounds interesting. Any pictures? The standard temporary solutions I used for live sound were runner carpets, cables underneath. The edges of the carpet then gaffed. Lots of drunk women in heels, no falls. Doesn’t protect the cable much though, Mostly just for xlrs, for snakes we’d sometimes use a trough.. a cheaply made wooden shoe-box looking thing with hinged door on top, carpeted ramps on both sides and carpet on top. Not very tall.. Amps and hand trucks could get over no problem, kept cables safe.
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Post by channelcat on Jul 2, 2019 18:05:17 GMT -6
Unfortunately, no pics. It’s not the prettiest solution, but it worked!
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Post by Quint on Jul 2, 2019 20:12:48 GMT -6
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Post by Omicron9 on Jul 3, 2019 20:42:22 GMT -6
Thanks for all the great suggestions; I really appreciate it.
Best regards,
-09
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Post by Ward on Jul 3, 2019 20:46:10 GMT -6
Conduits under your floor work well.
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Post by Omicron9 on Jul 3, 2019 21:35:37 GMT -6
Conduits under your floor work well. Thanks, Ward. I had considered that. My question is only for temporary solutions, as eventually the snakes will be going into the walls. I'm starting to consider the heavy-duty cable covers at the doors.
Thanks and regards, -09
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Post by Ward on Jul 4, 2019 5:37:16 GMT -6
Conduits under your floor work well. Thanks, Ward. I had considered that. My question is only for temporary solutions, as eventually the snakes will be going into the walls. I'm starting to consider the heavy-duty cable covers at the doors. Thanks and regards, -09
Good luck with it all. Conduits are a lot easier than people realize and don't have to be permanent blemishes on temporary premises either. There are often access points in a floor just like for plumbing and electrical. Both other methods will work well too. Keeping the strain off cables is also very important when hanging them. |
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Post by Omicron9 on Jul 4, 2019 10:58:55 GMT -6
Thanks, Ward. I had considered that. My question is only for temporary solutions, as eventually the snakes will be going into the walls. I'm starting to consider the heavy-duty cable covers at the doors. Thanks and regards, -09
Good luck with it all. Conduits are a lot easier than people realize and don't have to be permanent blemishes on temporary premises either. There are often access points in a floor just like for plumbing and electrical. Both other methods will work well too. Keeping the strain off cables is also very important when hanging them. Thanks, Ward. The more I think about it, I think the temporary solution may be to run the snakes along the base of the walls, laying in the floor. Using a threshold-esque cable cover at the door would be fine for now. No hanging, and still safe enough for my tripping propensity. I truly look forward to having them buried in the walls as soon as I figure out what the wall treatments are going to be. That may be another thread right there. Happy 4th, -09
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Post by jcgriggs on Jul 5, 2019 8:24:14 GMT -6
One thing to be aware of (and easy to overlook) with conduits is the material. I naively used ABS plumbing pipes and it was a HUGE mistake. ABS gets sticky when it heats and pulling cables generates a fair amount of friction - not a good combination. I built the conduits in and was forced to open a bunch of walls and floors to pull my cables later. If you decide to use conduits, use PVC pipe if you plan to pull cables. Cheerz, John Thanks, Ward. I had considered that. My question is only for temporary solutions, as eventually the snakes will be going into the walls. I'm starting to consider the heavy-duty cable covers at the doors. Thanks and regards, -09
Good luck with it all. Conduits are a lot easier than people realize and don't have to be permanent blemishes on temporary premises either. There are often access points in a floor just like for plumbing and electrical. Both other methods will work well too. Keeping the strain off cables is also very important when hanging them. |
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Post by Omicron9 on Jul 5, 2019 11:53:06 GMT -6
One thing to be aware of (and easy to overlook) with conduits is the material. I naively used ABS plumbing pipes and it was a HUGE mistake. ABS gets sticky when it heats and pulling cables generates a fair amount of friction - not a good combination. I built the conduits in and was forced to open a bunch of walls and floors to pull my cables later. If you decide to use conduits, use PVC pipe if you plan to pull cables. Cheerz, John Good luck with it all. Conduits are a lot easier than people realize and don't have to be permanent blemishes on temporary premises either. There are often access points in a floor just like for plumbing and electrical. Both other methods will work well too. Keeping the strain off cables is also very important when hanging them. Thanks for the tip, John. I wouldn't have considered that factor. -09 |
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Post by din on Jul 5, 2019 13:13:38 GMT -6
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Post by jcgriggs on Jul 5, 2019 13:15:05 GMT -6
For me, it was one of those "learning experiences" you hear so much about... Very glad if I can save someone else the hassle! Cheerz, John One thing to be aware of (and easy to overlook) with conduits is the material. I naively used ABS plumbing pipes and it was a HUGE mistake. ABS gets sticky when it heats and pulling cables generates a fair amount of friction - not a good combination. I built the conduits in and was forced to open a bunch of walls and floors to pull my cables later. If you decide to use conduits, use PVC pipe if you plan to pull cables. Cheerz, John Thanks for the tip, John. I wouldn't have considered that factor. -09 |
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Post by johneppstein on Jul 6, 2019 17:49:28 GMT -6
Looks pretty nifty - never seen those before! |
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Post by jeremygillespie on Jul 9, 2019 20:56:39 GMT -6
If anybody is thinking of using these, you could probably save some money if you went to Home Depot or a House Siding supplier and got some vinyl J Channel. Comes in lots of colors and you could probably get 5 times as much for the same price. |
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Post by din on Jul 10, 2019 8:21:43 GMT -6
Ah! Now you tell me  Good tip! |
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