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Post by aremos on Jun 27, 2019 19:32:33 GMT -6
Very impressive. This brand new unit by Merging Technologies (Horus/Hapi) looks incredible for what it includes: Monitor Controller (headphones & 2 sets of speakers), 2 preamps, state-of-the-art 32 bit AD/DA converters & compact! Price around $1,500.00
Anyone here know anything about it? I don't see an AES/EBU connection but something called: RAVENNA/AES67. How would I connect it to a Pro Tools HD3 Accel system? How does this Ethernet protocol work?
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Post by Blackdawg on Jun 27, 2019 23:05:49 GMT -6
Ravenna is Merging's own Audio over IP protocol. Its how all their boxes talk to their own audio program Pyramix. I use it daily.
AES67 is basically AES audio over IP.
The best way I think to use that with Protools is you'd have to use Dante Virtual Sound card. However, you couldn't use anything else as your interface. You HD3 system is old by modern connection standards...sadly..But you're best bet would be trying to have digital outputs to another audio interface to make it AES67...which doesn't sound very conducive.
Maybe someone else will have a better way to do this. But as of now, I can't think of a nice way to make that your monitor controller for Protools or even interface with your HD3 system period.
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Post by aremos on Jun 28, 2019 9:06:39 GMT -6
That's what I thought but there's always a chance someone out there has a solution. For $1500 this looks tempting - given you have/use their connections/hardware. Guess I'm back to the "traditional" stuff.
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Post by adamjbrass on Jun 28, 2019 9:58:30 GMT -6
There is no way to connect the Anubis to a PTHD core card system. It only works as a Networked Interface over AES67. If you wanted a HAPI or HORUS, you could outfit the frame with the PT64 card.
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Post by Blackdawg on Jun 28, 2019 10:00:36 GMT -6
Thats a good suggestion, but not a cheap one. A horus with a HDX card is super pricey haha
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Post by adamjbrass on Jun 28, 2019 10:06:31 GMT -6
Just giving the available options for usage with PTHD core cards. Of course, you might just want to use Anubis for what it is...opening PT natively with Core Audio Drivers instead of the HD Card - using the AES67/VAD drivers for OSX or ASIO for Windows systems-- and use it that way, tethered to PT for mixing and monitoring duties. But, it doesn't sound like that is of interest.
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Post by Blackdawg on Jun 28, 2019 13:54:32 GMT -6
Just giving the available options for usage with PTHD core cards. Of course, you might just want to use Anubis for what it is...opening PT natively with Core Audio Drivers instead of the HD Card - using the AES67/VAD drivers for OSX or ASIO for Windows systems-- and use it that way, tethered to PT for mixing and monitoring duties. But, it doesn't sound like that is of interest. well, i think it would be of interest excpet that you can't run CoreAudio and PTHD at the same time. I mean you can, but PTHD won't route to CoreAudio directly. And if you use CoreAudio...you can't use HD...Catch22.
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Post by adamjbrass on Jun 28, 2019 14:27:08 GMT -6
Not saying you can...I am saying that you can open Pro Tools Natively using Core Audio Drivers.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2020 11:49:53 GMT -6
i have my eyes on this one but i never used a ethernet type interface, hope its not complicated for average user. i have looked into their hapi ADDA and was too much for me to figure out as a musician. may have to sell my few stuff to fund it.
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Post by adamjbrass on Jan 25, 2020 15:10:46 GMT -6
i have my eyes on this one but i never used a ethernet type interface, hope its not complicated for average user. i have looked into their hapi ADDA and was too much for me to figure out as a musician. may have to sell my few stuff to fund it. It’s very complex and thus can do a lot. I would say, there is a higher learning curve to it. But once you get how to set it up for your application, it becomes a truly magical box, which IMHO, sounds stunning in every part of it. The headphone amplifier blows away the HAPI headphone amp in no small way. The whole experience of ANUBIS is top level. But I will tell you honestly, it’s a far more complicated device than 98% of Audio Interfaces on the market.
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Post by aremos on Jan 25, 2020 15:24:49 GMT -6
i have my eyes on this one but i never used a ethernet type interface, hope its not complicated for average user. i have looked into their hapi ADDA and was too much for me to figure out as a musician. may have to sell my few stuff to fund it. It’s very complex and thus can do a lot. I would say, there is a higher learning curve to it. But once you get how to set it up for your application, it becomes a truly magical box, which IMHO, sounds stunning in every part of it. The headphone amplifier blows away the HAPI headphone amp in no small way. The whole experience of ANUBIS is top level. But I will tell you honestly, it’s a far more complicated device than 98% of Audio Interfaces on the market. Adam, Could you use it with PT Ultimate (2019.10), Natively, inside a Cheesgrater (Core Audio) via ethernet?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2020 15:29:54 GMT -6
i have my eyes on this one but i never used a ethernet type interface, hope its not complicated for average user. i have looked into their hapi ADDA and was too much for me to figure out as a musician. may have to sell my few stuff to fund it. It’s very complex and thus can do a lot. I would say, there is a higher learning curve to it. But once you get how to set it up for your application, it becomes a truly magical box, which IMHO, sounds stunning in every part of it. The headphone amplifier blows away the HAPI headphone amp in no small way. The whole experience of ANUBIS is top level. But I will tell you honestly, it’s a far more complicated device than 98% of Audio Interfaces on the market. yea i may ditch my crimson for this. i have also looked into HAPI and it was just too much of learning curve. but this ANUBIS device seems like a winner. would u say for basic tracking its not as much complicated? i am not a mixer so i dont need to learn that side of things. i like things simple, cause i dont have time to learn new stuff due to family obligations. would you say the pre/converters are step above from spl crimson? im guessing with merging, its as close to top of the line specs?
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Post by aremos on Jan 25, 2020 15:37:52 GMT -6
The only confusing thing I find is there are no digital outs? How can you use this with an interface's AES/EBU, ADAT or SPDIF?
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Post by adamjbrass on Jan 25, 2020 15:48:51 GMT -6
It’s very complex and thus can do a lot. I would say, there is a higher learning curve to it. But once you get how to set it up for your application, it becomes a truly magical box, which IMHO, sounds stunning in every part of it. The headphone amplifier blows away the HAPI headphone amp in no small way. The whole experience of ANUBIS is top level. But I will tell you honestly, it’s a far more complicated device than 98% of Audio Interfaces on the market. Adam, Could you use it with PT Ultimate (2019.10), Natively, inside a Cheesgrater (Core Audio) via ethernet?
Yes, via Merging Core Audio Driver It is now approved for the latest Mac OS
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Post by adamjbrass on Jan 25, 2020 15:49:48 GMT -6
The only confusing thing I find is there are no digital outs? How can you use this with an interface's AES/EBU, ADAT or SPDIF? As Anubis was designed for co-mingling with HAPI/HORUS, those boxes are where you would use digital I/O
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2020 21:45:22 GMT -6
I see a similar offering from another brand symphony desktop for 1299.. What u guys think? I may prefer them for work flow instead of learning all this ethernet stuff. Anyone know how these both brands compare when it comes to converters and pres
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Post by Blackdawg on Jan 25, 2020 22:19:55 GMT -6
Mergings converters are stellar.
Really if you can program network IP addresses that's all you need to know to really tap into mergings devices.
Really not that complex.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2020 23:33:32 GMT -6
Mergings converters are stellar. Really if you can program network IP addresses that's all you need to know to really tap into mergings devices. Really not that complex. upon checking out hapi, the routing stuff seemed a bit complicated from what i seen, at least for me, hopefully this desktop version is more straightforward. its definitely on my radar for sure. u belive merging step above from symphony?
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Post by Blackdawg on Jan 26, 2020 0:01:54 GMT -6
Mergings converters are stellar. Really if you can program network IP addresses that's all you need to know to really tap into mergings devices. Really not that complex. upon checking out hapi, the routing stuff seemed a bit complicated from what i seen, at least for me, hopefully this desktop version is more straightforward. its definitely on my radar for sure. u belive merging step above from symphony? I personally haven't used a symphony. But I'd be pretty confident that they would sound better. Although better is realative to what you're looking for. Merging stuff is ultra HiFi and honest. Lots of detail and clarity. The routing with Anibus is a bit annoying at times but easy connect works great. They don't work any different from one device to the other, they all use the same stuff. So either you use Ravenna net or an ASIO driver via USB
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Post by nobtwiddler on Jan 26, 2020 20:55:33 GMT -6
This is one of my locations rigs, with the Anubis + Attachments:
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Post by adamjbrass on Jan 27, 2020 14:00:41 GMT -6
Sweet rig nobtwiddler!
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