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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 1, 2014 20:30:58 GMT -6
So - arny, drumrec, nobtwiddler...I figure you guys might know more about this compressor...Want to tell us more? |
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Post by tonycamphd on Mar 1, 2014 20:35:29 GMT -6
When the levee breaks drum compressor, the mighty Led Zeppelin! I'm also interested in its history
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Post by jeromemason on Mar 1, 2014 21:01:18 GMT -6
Yep...... I'd like to hear on this one as well
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Post by adogg4629 on Mar 2, 2014 1:19:50 GMT -6
My mind is spinning. I thought this was a post about ADR. LOL. Don't you all love acronyms?  |
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Post by joey808 on Mar 2, 2014 2:21:33 GMT -6
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Post by geoff738 on Mar 2, 2014 7:45:56 GMT -6
When the levee breaks drum compressor, the mighty Led Zeppelin! I'm also interested in its history I know it's known for this - but is it a one trick pony (albeit a good trick)? What else does it do well? Also, the Daking comp has a release setting modelled after the ADR. Cheers, Geoff |
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Post by geoff738 on Mar 2, 2014 9:26:56 GMT -6
I also think that one of the UBK Fatso modes is reminiscent of a Compex. Supposedly.
(Edit - smooth, at least on the plugin, according to Kush's website).
Cheers,
Geoff
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Post by awtac on Mar 2, 2014 10:25:33 GMT -6
it's a very basic yet refined and very elegant FET compressor. You might ask how something can be basic and refined, a compex is the answer... In 1970, in England, there were not many compressors available to purchase commercially, if you made a record in London and had a compressor on it back then odds are extraordinarily high that it was a compex. All the compressor cards that went into the early helios consoles were compex. This is -far- more than the comp on levee breaks. It's more like the comp that was on most british rock records... It can be a very smooth and out of the way compressor and can also get pretty raunchy and battle a guitar like nothing else, best heard on the intro to smoke on the water. These units require a pretty in depth calibration, so make sure you have it set up if you buy an old one. Also expect the pots on an old unit to be real noisy, the original parts used back then werent the best. They can be very fiddly units to use off the bat, but once you figure out the quirks with the gain structure, there's nothing else like it. Expensive to maintain but worth every penny. If you listen to early 70's british rock LP's youve heard a compex on everything. everything.
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Post by jeromemason on Mar 2, 2014 11:44:07 GMT -6
it's a very basic yet refined and very elegant FET compressor. You might ask how something can be basic and refined, a compex is the answer... In 1970, in England, there were not many compressors available to purchase commercially, if you made a record in London and had a compressor on it back then odds are extraordinarily high that it was a compex. All the compressor cards that went into the early helios consoles were compex. This is -far- more than the comp on levee breaks. It's more like the comp that was on most british rock records... It can be a very smooth and out of the way compressor and can also get pretty raunchy and battle a guitar like nothing else, best heard on the intro to smoke on the water. These units require a pretty in depth calibration, so make sure you have it set up if you buy an old one. Also expect the pots on an old unit to be real noisy, the original parts used back then werent the best. They can be very fiddly units to use off the bat, but once you figure out the quirks with the gain structure, there's nothing else like it. Expensive to maintain but worth every penny. If you listen to early 70's british rock LP's youve heard a compex on everything. everything. Well I'll be damned...... now I want something else....... I need help and intervention. |
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Post by tonycamphd on Mar 2, 2014 12:03:09 GMT -6
There is an EZF760 DIY kit available at AML, it's a clone of the compex f760, be warned, not for noobs
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 2, 2014 12:13:32 GMT -6
I believe Helios has the F760 available too. arny? Is it ever coming in 500 series? |
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 2, 2014 12:14:06 GMT -6
it's a very basic yet refined and very elegant FET compressor. You might ask how something can be basic and refined, a compex is the answer... In 1970, in England, there were not many compressors available to purchase commercially, if you made a record in London and had a compressor on it back then odds are extraordinarily high that it was a compex. All the compressor cards that went into the early helios consoles were compex. This is -far- more than the comp on levee breaks. It's more like the comp that was on most british rock records... It can be a very smooth and out of the way compressor and can also get pretty raunchy and battle a guitar like nothing else, best heard on the intro to smoke on the water. These units require a pretty in depth calibration, so make sure you have it set up if you buy an old one. Also expect the pots on an old unit to be real noisy, the original parts used back then werent the best. They can be very fiddly units to use off the bat, but once you figure out the quirks with the gain structure, there's nothing else like it. Expensive to maintain but worth every penny. If you listen to early 70's british rock LP's youve heard a compex on everything. everything. Well I'll be damned...... now I want something else....... I need help and intervention. You're welcome |
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Post by matt on Mar 2, 2014 14:16:15 GMT -6
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Post by arny on Mar 2, 2014 16:45:32 GMT -6
I believe Helios has the F760 available too. arny? Is it ever coming in 500 series? Dear John, Its already out in its original Helios form, the 500 Series F760 will be available sometime during April, I have just carried out the final tests on the prototype and I'm very pleased with the final results, on both versions we have selected much higher grade components than those chosen on the original F760 or Compex. I decided that it was just as important to be in a position to be able to supply new higher quality PCB 's rather than the type used in the original, as some of the old ones have print-lift problems, we can either supply them as empty PCB's or with a bag of DIY components, or fully stuffed as is the American term, we use the Term "populated" in Great Britain. ![]() We can also supply packs of complimentary JFETs as this is very important, as well as extender looms tomake servicing a lot easier. Due to the very complicated way of calibrating the Helios F760 or the AD&R Compex, I have decided to bring out a DVD explaining this in a very simple way, each chapter of the DVD will cover each Pre-Set including the four that are not covered in the Original Helios or AD&R instructions. I even have a handwritten Calibration Instruction written by the designer himself, where these four Pre-sets are not mentioned, yet they are very important, some engineers I hear turn them to their middle position, which is far from being correct. I might also add that not all the Helios F760's were the same, some had subtle component changes which were done to the clients wishes. Kind Regards Tony Tony Arnold (Director) Helios Electronics Ltd & Arny's Shack (Recording). www.arnys-shack.co  ![]() |
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 2, 2014 16:47:57 GMT -6
Thanks, Arny!
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 2, 2014 17:40:14 GMT -6
Now what are those connectors, Arny?
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Post by arny on Mar 2, 2014 17:47:36 GMT -6
Now what are those connectors, Arny? Dear John, The white ones are what we use on the Standard size Helios Mic Pre, and Helios F760 The Brown/Gold PCB is to plug into the existing 15 Way after removing either the "A" the "B" or in the case of the Compex the "C" card these can then be placed into the Blue 15way for ease of servicing or calibration. The Black socket is a Line DC socket as used on most DC PSU's and of course the four gold sockets are Female Phone Line sockets. Kind Regards Tony Helios Electronics Ltd |
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Post by drumrec on Mar 2, 2014 17:48:28 GMT -6
What a great headline. ADR compressor is a true beauty. You've already got the most information about ADR in this thread. But I think you can use ADR to all possible sources. It's just about how much you feed the input to the beast. You could say That it is old 1176 with steroids! Had a " ADR F760X -RS Compex " Which I just loved . Then I came across the unusual older model with Helios cards (which I was told). I really enjoyed my ADR Compex, but this old helios model knocks out Compex into sound, incredible piece of magic! It is a Audio Design F760X -RS not Compex . Before I sold my Compex model , I took off the cover and comparing the two models, and it was a completely different type of construction. I'm not a DIY guy, but saw that there were two different beasts Have had it for many years now and I 've never seen someone who has this model on the net and in various forums, friend etc.. Would be very interesting to know a little more about this compressor's history and you seem to be the right man arny to know that. Would be very grateful if you had time Kind Regards Hakan Hansson   |
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Post by jeromemason on Mar 2, 2014 18:12:20 GMT -6
What a great headline. ADR compressor is a true beauty. You've already got the most information about ADR in this thread. But I think you can use ADR to all possible sources. It's just about how much you feed the input to the beast. You could say That it is old 1176 with steroids! Had a " ADR F760X -RS Compex " Which I just loved . Then I came across the unusual older model with Helios cards (which I was told). I really enjoyed my ADR Compex, but this old helios model knocks out Compex into sound, incredible piece of magic! It is a Audio Design F760X -RS not Compex . Before I sold my Compex model , I took off the cover and comparing the two models, and it was a completely different type of construction. I'm not a DIY guy, but saw that there were two different beasts Have had it for many years now and I 've never seen someone who has this model on the net and in various forums, friend etc.. Would be very interesting to know a little more about this compressor's history and you seem to be the right man arny to know that. Would be very grateful if you had time Kind Regards Hakan Hansson Hakan, What is it exactly that you're doing with the Compex again? Your drums are just sick sounding, I say again, SICK sounding. |
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Post by drumrec on Mar 2, 2014 19:19:35 GMT -6
What is it exactly that you're doing with the Compex again? Your drums are just sick sounding, I say again, SICK sounding. Thanks Bro, but the drum sound that I have is 95% a variant of TLC more like TPGGR "tune, play gently, good room."  |
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Post by jeromemason on Mar 2, 2014 19:24:56 GMT -6
I can get that gear where??? I'm not finding it.  |
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Post by tonycamphd on Mar 2, 2014 19:43:33 GMT -6
I believe Helios has the F760 available too. arny? Is it ever coming in 500 series? Dear John, Its already out in its original Helios form, the 500 Series F760 will be available sometime during April, I have just carried out the final tests on the prototype and I'm very pleased with the final results, on both versions we have selected much higher grade components than those chosen on the original F760 or Compex. I decided that it was just as important to be in a position to be able to supply new higher quality PCB 's rather than the type used in the original, as some of the old ones have print-lift problems, we can either supply them as empty PCB's or with a bag of DIY components, or fully stuffed as is the American term, we use the Term "populated" in Great Britain. ![]() We can also supply packs of complimentary JFETs as this is very important, as well as extender looms tomake servicing a lot easier. Due to the very complicated way of calibrating the Helios F760 or the AD&R Compex, I have decided to bring out a DVD explaining this in a very simple way, each chapter of the DVD will cover each Pre-Set including the four that are not covered in the Original Helios or AD&R instructions. I even have a handwritten Calibration Instruction written by the designer himself, where these four Pre-sets are not mentioned, yet they are very important, some engineers I hear turn them to their middle position, which is far from being correct. I might also add that not all the Helios F760's were the same, some had subtle component changes which were done to the clients wishes. Kind Regards Tony Tony Arnold (Director) Helios Electronics Ltd & Arny's Shack (Recording). www.arnys-shack.co![]() Holy crap Tony!!!!!! this is so friggin exciting i cant believe it!!! Am i reading this correctly? you're going to provide 500 series F760 Diy kits with calibration DVD? thats insane man, i'm all over this! Do you know what the price point will be yet? This is the single coolest compressor ever made IMO, EVER!!!! Let me know if i can get on a list for the first round if you have one? 2 good reasons why i should be first, is my name is Tony 8) and i'm the Diy moderator here at RGO, it's VERY important i get my hands on these first, you know, to test em out for ya lol  |
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 2, 2014 20:01:19 GMT -6
Wow - I totally missed the DIY thing...
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Post by arny on Mar 3, 2014 3:11:02 GMT -6
Dear Tony & John,
Sorry I see how one could read that its a complete DIY kit
for the Helios F760
No its just if someone has a knackered "A" or "B" PCB where the print has
lifted then we will supply a new Higher Quality PCB as a replacement, if one
wishes for it to be populated then we supply it "Ready to Go".
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we can send it with a bag of components for the client to Populate the PCB
themselves in a DIY sort of way.
They will have to send us their old PCB, as it would not be fair for Tim at Q2
or other Helios or Compex owners.
Each item is available separately or your choice all in one Box.
i.e.
1 = Extension Cable, 2 = New A or B PCB's, 3 = Complimentary Pair of JFET'S,
4 = PSU Cable, 5 = Calibration DVD, 6 = PSU's, 7 = Lunchbox in different sizes.
Kind Regards
Tony
Helios Electronics Ltd
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