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Post by porkyman on Apr 29, 2015 19:10:13 GMT -6
ive never heard a shootout with a burl where i thought the burl won. add this one to the list. i always feel its a little muffled. yet all the dudes that have recorded my favorite albums use/endorse it. probably why im not making millions mixing other peoples records.
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Post by porkyman on Apr 28, 2015 18:17:21 GMT -6
i just think it actually costs more to build the 1248 because it has more parts and therefore the 16a should be cheaper. thats all. i think they set up all 3 perfectly. these are the exact units i would put out if i ran the company.
thanks wiz for the thread BTW. wouldnt have known about these otherwise.
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Post by porkyman on Apr 28, 2015 17:05:37 GMT -6
Buying a new mac/software next month and I am strongly leaning towards the 1248 because I need the monitor control and spdif I/O. Ive read in a few places that each of these interfaces have differences in conversion. Anyone have any experience with the 1248 or suggestions for a similar box? Why no spdif on the 16a? i dont think theyre different. at least i hope not. i know there is a difference in the pre's between the 1248 and the 8m. 1248 specs better. i dont think the 16a is meant to be used as a main audio interface. more as an add on for the avb line. or basically to add i/o to the 1248 which is the flagship. thats why no spdif. doesnt really need 2 more channels. i do feel like youre kinda getting ripped a little bit with the 16a though. the 1248 has way more features.
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Post by porkyman on Apr 28, 2015 16:02:05 GMT -6
found this frequency response of the symphony (green). looks almost identical. i think the red is the Apollo.
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Post by porkyman on Apr 28, 2015 15:52:21 GMT -6
looking at the low frequency response and high frequency response chart, it looks like it extends all the way down to 8hz before it drops off and gently falls steady from 8khz up. super small like .5 db from 8k to 40 k. and i guess a little spike at 715hz. am i reading that right....
i bet these sound almost identical to the symphony. im pretty sure thats what they a/b against in development.
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Post by porkyman on Apr 27, 2015 22:46:35 GMT -6
just got mine today. a/b-ing lady gaga bad romance and her vocal is much more up front through the Motu. also feel the whole mix is tilted a little bit to the low end. both sound great. after comparing the two (16a/RM barebeast) for the last couple hours im comfortable saying the RM has more high end detail. maybe a little high end bump somewhere, or maybe 16a is rolled off a little bit. IDK. the low end im not sure about. it seems clearer/cleaner on the RM. on this particular song i would swear it was high passed, but definitely more able to tell whats going on down there. the whole track on the other hand seems thinner to me as a whole. i would say either the motu extends lower than the the RM or its got a little bump down there somewhere.
listening to mostly pop records. the vocals really sit high on top of the mix through the 16a. sometimes they even pop out to the point of separation. something i really struggle with.
i really want to know what these engineers are hearing because through the RM i thought the synths were a little harsh sounding. kinda that digital static noise that makes you cringe. on the 16a i thought the vocals were a little loose (almost mortal) and the bass could be cleaned up a little. does anybody know what the frequency response is on these dac's? im really curious as to which is more accurate.
over all i would say strictly for listening purposes i would choose the Motu. i think it softens harsh high end a little bit/RM exaggerates it too much. for mixing IDK yet. i thought they would sound close enough i could sell the RM but it sounds different enough i think ill hang on to it.
P.S. im not using all this i/o. i really should have got the 1248 instead. if anyone did the opposite and wants to trade hit me up.
edit: theres a 1248 for 1377.00 at sweetwater right now. if you want a 16a at discount you can get it and trade for mine. )
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Post by porkyman on Apr 15, 2015 12:29:52 GMT -6
What do you guys think about the sonarworks eq calibration. sonarworks.com/2015/02/sonarworks-reference-3-headphone-calibration-plug/I tried it out last night and it makes a pretty big difference. Not sure if its for the better though. It is interesting listening to the b&k curve. Interesting in the sense that my mixes sound like a muddy mess through it. I know a lot of studios tune their rooms to b&k type curves. Not flat. do you guys think a. headphone calibration is a good idea and b. Mixing to a b&k curve is a good idea. Bump on the JW headphone amp
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Post by porkyman on Apr 4, 2015 9:13:12 GMT -6
Thanks. Ill try those out.
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Post by porkyman on Apr 4, 2015 2:47:53 GMT -6
what do you struggle with with the plug in ? the biggest thing is it doesnt save settings when i close a session. spent like 8 hours going through all the sounds (platinum too) finally got a kit set up. open the session the next day and its blank. PT11 Windows 7. i think it takes more cpu than the kontakt version did. cant sample sounds. would like to be able to scroll through samples back to back and not have to drag it into the drum to listen to one hit. dont love any of the cymbals. blackbird included. but on the other hand ive never heard a cymbal i did like. anywhere. dont really know my way around it yet so my opinion could change. im pretty sure 5 will be out any day now since all the plugs have been updated and the BB sale ended. i read somwhere that 5 was tested and ready to go mid last year but he swore he would put all his resources into getting those VTM/VCC/FGX updates out that he promised for ever ago. so it would've looked bad. i tried holding out for 5 but i had to jump on the BB sale before it ended. im hoping it will be a free software update.
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Post by porkyman on Apr 3, 2015 17:41:53 GMT -6
I can't believe I am actually going to have something to post on a mixing/headphones thread - like most folks, this has been like looking for the bigfoot lochness grail. I can comfortably say I recommend the Audeze LCD-2. These things are actually flat from 100hz down to 5hz. Flat, but firm. They are not cheap - about a grand with tax -but they are without peer amongst the headphones I have tried. It is the first time I have done a mix exclusively on headphones and not been mortified when porting to other sources. For the record, the other cans I have been through include: AKG 701, Grado 225, Grado 325, Sennheiser 280, ATH M50 (still use for tracking), Sony 7501 and was even using some itty bitty Phillips clip on earbuds (which I do still use for the final check). I have also purchased the new, less expensive Audeze offering (the EL-8) so I could do critical editing with a client listening, but while detailed, I did not find I could mix on these - just the Audeze LCD-2. For the record, they do have offerings that are reportedly even more super duper, but based on the response curves I could find, those seem to swerve more into audiophile territory with some articulation in the high mids. MJH how would you compare the grado 225 to the akg 701. i think im over my 701's. the low end just isnt translating for me and i dont have a sub to monitor through so im kinda dependent on phones in that region. i have a grado on the way... $1000 is out of the question for me too. i cant even afford half of one of those Audeze. bump on the Jim Williams headphone amp too.
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Post by porkyman on Apr 3, 2015 17:30:20 GMT -6
yeah i jumped on this. its the closest ive heard so far... dont love the plugin though.
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Post by porkyman on Apr 3, 2015 0:52:54 GMT -6
you're such a bastard jim lol 8) I want one! do you sell them? Naw, too easy to make. If you want I can give you the schematic. Maybe post it here for the DIY's? what ever happened to this schematic? i need this thing.
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Post by porkyman on Mar 28, 2015 16:46:12 GMT -6
DMG equick is exactly like pro-q but sounds better, and looks better IMO. equilibrium sounds even better and can be made to open exactly like equick so probably best option.
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Post by porkyman on Mar 27, 2015 19:00:36 GMT -6
what was originally wrong with the mic? was it the RM the whole time? yeah. it was just making noise. thats why the mic worked one day and the next it didnt. it was never the mic. i think the Westerns did add to the noise though. i went back to the rca's. ive built a bunch of stuff over the years and am usually underwhelmed. mostly because i build them up so much in my head they can never live up... this thing on the other hand really blew me away. i cant even believe it when i hear my voice coming out the other end. i dont wanna go crazy but its like a dream. i normally cant stand the sound of my own voice but this thing almost makes it tolerable. thanks again guys, and thanks to category5 who helped me through the psu build over on gdiy.
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Post by porkyman on Mar 27, 2015 13:07:18 GMT -6
The resistor came with the chunger kit. Idk why he chose it. Idk what was wrong with the RM. It was just making noise. I may have never suspected it if i hadn't post that clip. It was so much quieter than in my daw i thought i was just being picky so i plugged in an sm7b to hear the noise difference and of course it was identical. I hit the reset button on the RM and boom. Instant silence. I would have suspected anything other than the mic had it not been the mk47. But i read how others have noise problems. i hear noise. So of course i have noise problems too. It really is true what they say. Assumption is the mother of all f@#k ups. Glad you figured it out. I see a carbon composition resistor used in your mic.. Was that for a specific purpose? Carbon comps have the highest self noise of any resistor type.. Was your RM ADC set for the wrong sample rate/bit depth output? Sometimes the receivers will lock on but you'll get noise from the bits being dropped.
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Post by porkyman on Mar 26, 2015 23:03:30 GMT -6
OMG!!!! problem solved. it was my ross martin ADC!!!
Thanks again guys for the support.
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Post by porkyman on Mar 26, 2015 22:33:56 GMT -6
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Post by porkyman on Mar 26, 2015 22:28:50 GMT -6
it is so much quieter on that clip. you have to take my word for it, it is really, really loud.
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Post by porkyman on Mar 26, 2015 22:25:48 GMT -6
https%3A//soundcloud.com/satans-vagina-1/audio-13dup1-09
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Post by porkyman on Mar 26, 2015 22:11:30 GMT -6
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Post by porkyman on Mar 26, 2015 22:09:36 GMT -6
trying to figure out how to post pics and clips.
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Post by porkyman on Mar 26, 2015 22:06:38 GMT -6
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Post by porkyman on Mar 26, 2015 1:50:32 GMT -6
so. i touched everything up. cleaned with alcohol. put some Western Electrics in there and im pretty sure its worse. will let these burn in a little and pick up some acetone and try again tomorrow.
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Post by porkyman on Mar 25, 2015 10:43:51 GMT -6
Man. You guys are so awesome. Im pumped to get this working again. Ill try everything suggested tonight when i get home.
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Post by porkyman on Mar 25, 2015 2:44:30 GMT -6
thats how much i dont know how to use it... maybe its a trial limitation. where are they at on yours? i only see like 30 on the preset drop down.
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