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Post by MorEQsThanAnswers on May 30, 2019 17:36:58 GMT -6
Hey all, I haven't seen any posts about the Subpac yet. I don't have a detailed understanding of the science behind it, but apparently it is a backpack/seat-pad that turns your body into a subwoofer. Yes, "turns your body into a subwoofer." It isn't a sub that you strap to your chair, as it doesn't emit acoustic energy. It uses electrical impulses to make your skin, muscles, and bones react to the source material physically. subpac.com/(I am not affiliated) I just pre-ordered the S2 because I can't bring a sub into my apartment. Seems like a pretty sneaky solution for low end monitoring when a sub is out of the question! Has anybody else tried this thing? Anybody with Sonarworks? Would love your thoughts and some information about how you're mixes were affected!
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Post by Tbone81 on May 30, 2019 17:53:23 GMT -6
Sounds cool but not like something you could use in a critical listening environment, like recording/mixing. Devices like this have been around for a while, I've seen ones that attached to the bottom of drum thrones and/or staging that shake with the sub Hz so that you get the illusion of huge subs shaking your body. They're pretty awesome for performers on stage who want to feel the bass but don't want crazy loud stage volumes.
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Post by sirthought on May 30, 2019 18:08:27 GMT -6
I wouldn't rule it out before actually using one, but regarding Sonarworks: it seems as if they wouldn't be compatible since the calibration needs frequency measurements and this isn't really outputting a loud signal.
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Post by jeremygillespie on May 30, 2019 20:30:50 GMT -6
I was a tester on their first version and didn’t see any practical use for working on audio. I’m sure it would be cool if you are into video games though, or for watching tv late at night with headphones on.
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Post by MorEQsThanAnswers on May 30, 2019 22:29:36 GMT -6
I was a tester on their first version and didn’t see any practical use for working on audio. I’m sure it would be cool if you are into video games though, or for watching tv late at night with headphones on. No value at all for referencing? I have a tendency to mix bottom-heavy and was hoping this might better clue me in on when the subs are too aggressive
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Post by MorEQsThanAnswers on May 30, 2019 22:34:00 GMT -6
I wouldn't rule it out before actually using one, but regarding Sonarworks: it seems as if they wouldn't be compatible since the calibration needs frequency measurements and this isn't really outputting a loud signal. It's apparently putting out no noise at all. Since it isn't impacting the room, it theoretically wouldn't mess with my perception of the monitors. I would however be "feeling" the EQ'd signal... maybe I should rethink this?? Edited: Yea, I'm gonna cancel this order. This is gonna be a PITA to do correctly until I have an interface with more outputs. Thanks everyone! Really glad I posted!
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Post by jeremygillespie on May 31, 2019 5:25:23 GMT -6
I was a tester on their first version and didn’t see any practical use for working on audio. I’m sure it would be cool if you are into video games though, or for watching tv late at night with headphones on. No value at all for referencing? I have a tendency to mix bottom-heavy and was hoping this might better clue me in on when the subs are too aggressive At least on the first version, the documentation didn’t state where the crossover freq was for when the pack would start vibrating, and it only had a volume knob on it that was continuously variable with no markings on it. So, no matter what you had no clue what was going on or why. Also, the amount of vibration changed depending on the chair you were using as well. They may have change some of that for the second version, but I still wouldn’t think it to be useful for making mix decisions.
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Post by bram on Jun 2, 2019 23:30:16 GMT -6
I’ve been using the M2X (wearable subpac) for the last year or so. I use it at the beginning of mixes to dial in the kick and bass relationship. Usually I’ll pull up a reference track that has the low-end response I’m aiming for, and AB until I’m in the ballpark. Once I’m happy with the low-frequency balance, I continue the rest of the mix with just the near-fields. I’ve found the Subpac to be a useful studio tool that’s sped up my workflow in a room with a less than perfect low end response.
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Post by donr on Jun 3, 2019 8:51:54 GMT -6
I just grinned imagining seeing CLA with one on his back.
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