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Post by Johnkenn on May 7, 2019 8:04:48 GMT -6
Is there any rhyme or reason why I can sometimes highlight all of my volume line and pull it all down at one time and other times it basically latches and just pulls the center down? I want the entirety of what I highlight to reduce in volume by the set amount, and sometimes, it keeps the points at the two ends at the same volume and just reduces the middle - like you are pulling a slingshot...I've usually gone in and added another two points at the ends and can get it to work, just didn't know if there was a quicker solution. Also - sometimes even hovering over a single section that already has points determined, I can just pull that section down. Other times, it pulls all the sections down...drives me crazy.
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Post by kilroyrock on May 7, 2019 9:54:38 GMT -6
depending on what you're doing and how much you're changing it, I will separate the clip (right click drop down) into its own region and use the individual clip volume to accomplish this, because then it doesn't interfere with overall track level changes, or the now lack of being able to, once the envelope has been placed.
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Post by Blackdawg on May 7, 2019 10:01:47 GMT -6
This is why Volume Trim is the best.
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Post by kilroyrock on May 7, 2019 12:02:22 GMT -6
This is why Volume Trim is the best. Trim's great, but not available on my PT version (non HD). The individual clip trim though has been an acceptable replacement for me
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Post by jeremygillespie on May 7, 2019 12:05:10 GMT -6
This is why Volume Trim is the best. Trim's great, but not available on my PT version (non HD). The individual clip trim though has been an acceptable replacement for me You could make a VCA for the one channel you want to “trim”
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Post by jeremygillespie on May 7, 2019 12:07:39 GMT -6
If between 2 points the volume is the same on each side, you can just pull it up or down. If from one side to the other is not the same level, you need to make 2 break points outside of what you want to raise overall, then select between them.
I agree it’s kind of a pain in the ass but I’m so used to it at this point that it doesn’t really bother me much.
If there is another solution I’m all ears!
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Post by jeremygillespie on May 7, 2019 12:14:51 GMT -6
depending on what you're doing and how much you're changing it, I will separate the clip (right click drop down) into its own region and use the individual clip volume to accomplish this, because then it doesn't interfere with overall track level changes, or the now lack of being able to, once the envelope has been placed. The problem with doing it this way is that you’re changing the level going into your plugins. And that could either be beneficial or just make more trouble down the road. I use clip gain to change the level of what I feed inserts, and then volume automation to change things post processing.
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Post by Blackdawg on May 7, 2019 12:20:19 GMT -6
Yeah so the "poor mans" volume trim is to use Aux tracks.
I used to use all Aux tracks for everything practically. Basically I'd auto mate the Aux track. If something needed tweaked then you change the induvidual track at the spot. That way you automation never gets fully changed.
You of course can work the other way where you automate the track and trim the Aux too. I tended to do it the other way because often I would also group some track into one aux.
This can also save processing power by having plugins that are doing the same thing(like filters) on one track instead of multiple. Not that that is as big of a deal anymore with modern computers.
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Post by Johnkenn on May 7, 2019 12:35:55 GMT -6
This is why Volume Trim is the best. That's what I'm talking about if you're talking about changing the channel to "Volume" and then moving the line...
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Post by Johnkenn on May 7, 2019 12:37:16 GMT -6
If between 2 points the volume is the same on each side, you can just pull it up or down. If from one side to the other is not the same level, you need to make 2 break points outside of what you want to raise overall, then select between them. I agree it’s kind of a pain in the ass but I’m so used to it at this point that it doesn’t really bother me much. If there is another solution I’m all ears! Yeah PITA. Believe in Cubase, you just highlight and move up and down.
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Post by jeremygillespie on May 7, 2019 12:51:03 GMT -6
This is why Volume Trim is the best. That's what I'm talking about if you're talking about changing the channel to "Volume" and then moving the line... HDX has a separate “trim” option in the drop down menu that is very similar to the ssl automation. You can pick the trim option and pull down an entire section of automation. So it’s like a separate second layer to automation. It’s super handy. Wish they would put it in the normal version.
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Post by seawell on May 7, 2019 13:30:30 GMT -6
That's what I'm talking about if you're talking about changing the channel to "Volume" and then moving the line... HDX has a separate “trim” option in the drop down menu that is very similar to the ssl automation. You can pick the trim option and pull down an entire section of automation. So it’s like a separate second layer to automation. It’s super handy. Wish they would put it in the normal version. All that and you get those sweet gold faders
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Post by Blackdawg on May 7, 2019 14:04:46 GMT -6
This is why Volume Trim is the best. That's what I'm talking about if you're talking about changing the channel to "Volume" and then moving the line... Yeah as stated Im talking about an HDX feature. But you can do the same thing basically with internal routing with Aux tracks like a explained above. Just not quite as convenient.
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