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Post by guitfiddler on Apr 25, 2019 4:21:13 GMT -6
I have a maxed out i7 2012 Mac Mini and I installed two SSD's, one for my system drive, and the other for my VI's. I record to an external USB drive. I want to get MainStage 3 and it's telling me I have to upgrade to 10.12 OSX. I decide to cautiously upgrade from my mac and I click on software update and I get this message stating that I have no updates available. I haven't called Apple yet, are they going to charge me for an OS X update, and are they going to allow me to run past 10.11.6 El Capitan with my 2012 mini? Don't laugh at me...lol!
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Post by mulmany on Apr 25, 2019 4:25:01 GMT -6
Do a Google search for the OSx version... They only show the newest on the app store. you have to do a bit of digging to find the apple download page. I downloaded Sierra on my old 2012 mini, worked fine.
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Post by indiehouse on Apr 25, 2019 4:43:43 GMT -6
Yeah, it’s around. You have to search for it.
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Post by theshea on Apr 25, 2019 5:50:22 GMT -6
reall? can i download an older os x system from the official apple store? i have mojave 10.4.5 installed and it gives me a few crashes with logic pro x. withe the older system version that never happened. i am thinking about re-installing my old system backup but would prefer to install the official older system on a clean HD.
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Post by ericn on Apr 25, 2019 7:42:12 GMT -6
Yeah, it’s around. You have to search for it. Yeah finding the download page with old OS versions is a pain in the ass! Be careful there are a lot of pages that are labeled as an orphaned version but when you click to download you suddenly find your linked to the current version. Makes you miss the old days of simply going on EBay and buying a bunch of disks! Before I would wipe my main drive I would go buy a cheap outboard drive load the new version and set it as boot drive and not touch my system drive till I knew it was stable or have a copy of my current system on a backup to fall back on. You |
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Post by mulmany on Apr 25, 2019 20:43:10 GMT -6
reall? can i download an older os x system from the official apple store? i have mojave 10.4.5 installed and it gives me a few crashes with logic pro x. withe the older system version that never happened. i am thinking about re-installing my old system backup but would prefer to install the official older system on a clean HD. Technically you can wipe the drive back to factory OS with a button hold on startup. You can go as far back as the OS your machine originally shipped with. The download is not from the store, but from their website. |
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Post by mike on Apr 25, 2019 21:47:40 GMT -6
FWIW.....Last year I could not find any older OS download page online and was also told by Apple it wasn't available making me go to an Apple store to have an older OS installed free of charge. Another time when installing an older OS from a purchased USB drive, I had to internally backdate the computer for it to work also FWIW.
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Post by Blackdawg on Apr 25, 2019 23:46:47 GMT -6
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Post by indiehouse on Apr 26, 2019 4:42:12 GMT -6
I never had to pay, at least a year ago when installed an older OS. |
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Post by mulmany on Apr 26, 2019 5:50:00 GMT -6
I paid years ago for a Snow Leppard disc...but that's ancient history now!
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Post by swafford on Apr 26, 2019 6:12:07 GMT -6
It's a good habit to get into to downloading every new OS so you have an install image when ever you need it.
When I upgraded my 2012 Mini to Mohave, I ended up doing a clean install after a few go rounds vs. just doing a straight upgrade. Never could get it to run great till the clean install. Since all I use it for is audio, that was no big deal and should have done it first time.
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Post by mike on Apr 26, 2019 7:28:57 GMT -6
File this under the FWIW and I could easily be wrong category;
I'm not sure if I remember this correctly anymore, I'm a little foggy on it, but think my issue at the time was in order to jump to another older OS that was different than what came with your computer, was I needed the original first version of it first, like 10.10.0 for example with the .0 being key in order to be able to load any later update of that OS after it, whether it was a combo update or not. Without the .0 version of the OS installed first, the .1 through .6 like the links above wouldn't work I seem to remember when changing OS's........Only update versions of older OS's were available online from what I could find at the time like your links above that end in .1 or .6 versions. I could not find the .0 original install versions of different older OS's online for free download.
I could easily be remembering this wrong and know there are people that know more than I here, but I think that was the issue that led me to go to a apple store and have them put the first .0 version of my preferred older OS on for free first, before I could update to the latest or last version of it .......FWIW. -- (The impression I got is Apple made the updates .1 through .6 of the older OS's available online so that one could update a reinstall with whatever older OS came with your computer, but didn't want to make different original older OS's (.0's) available to different users because they want to prompt you towards the latest and greatest OS for their own reasons.)
Which all leads me to agree with Swafford above saying It's a good habit to get into to downloading every new OS so you have the original .0 install image you can update there from whenever you need it.
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Post by ericn on Apr 26, 2019 8:41:16 GMT -6
In the old days of PT TDM there were a couple of OS upgrades where if you did the step upgrades the systems would hang, but if you did a clean install of the same OS it would run smoothe as silk.
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Post by Blackdawg on Apr 26, 2019 9:33:13 GMT -6
I never had to pay, at least a year ago when installed an older OS. I think it's changed ever since Lion or something. Lion is $20 I think, I had to pay that to do a clean install anyways back in the day. |
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Post by Blackdawg on Apr 26, 2019 9:36:06 GMT -6
File this under the FWIW and I could easily be wrong category;
I'm not sure if I remember this correctly anymore, I'm a little foggy on it, but think my issue at the time was in order to jump to another older OS that was different than what came with your computer, was I needed the original first version of it first, like 10.10.0 for example with the .0 being key in order to be able to load any later update of that OS after it, whether it was a combo update or not. Without the .0 version of the OS installed first, the .1 through .6 like the links above wouldn't work I seem to remember when changing OS's........Only update versions of older OS's were available online from what I could find at the time like your links above that end in .1 or .6 versions. I could not find the .0 original install versions of different older OS's online for free download.
I could easily be remembering this wrong and know there are people that know more than I here, but I think that was the issue that led me to go to a apple store and have them put the first .0 version of my preferred older OS on for free first, before I could update to the latest or last version of it .......FWIW. -- (The impression I got is Apple made the updates .1 through .6 of the older OS's available online so that one could update a reinstall with whatever older OS came with your computer, but didn't want to make different original older OS's (.0's) available to different users because they want to prompt you towards the latest and greatest OS for their own reasons.)
Which all leads me to agree with Swafford above saying It's a good habit to get into to downloading every new OS so you have the original .0 install image you can update there from whenever you need it.
I couldn't say one way or another if getting the .0 version first vs just getting the newest is better or worse. No clue really. Apple themselves direct you to 10.12.6 if you want to "upgrade" to Sierra. |
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