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Post by jcoutu1 on Apr 11, 2019 10:36:17 GMT -6
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Post by yotonic on Apr 11, 2019 20:43:11 GMT -6
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Post by BenjaminAshlin on Apr 11, 2019 20:52:28 GMT -6
I have a studio logic 88 key with grand weighting. They are reasonably priced for a good key-bed.
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Post by ragan on Apr 11, 2019 21:37:44 GMT -6
I’ve been really happy with the old Yamaha KX88 that I bought for Keyscape at the recommendation of several folks here. Thing is an absolute tank and it’s a joy to play. |
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Post by mulmany on Apr 12, 2019 6:00:23 GMT -6
I would second this, or a P115 for a cheaper option. Feels good, but light and easy to move around. Has built in speakers for the internal sounds, nice for warming up and monitoring. |
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Post by woofhead on Apr 12, 2019 6:40:18 GMT -6
Yamha all the way.I have a great grand piano but if theres no money for tuning and recording it the yamaha cp33 gets used and pianists feel very comfortable with the action and it sounds half decent for monitoring, with a sample used for the track.Also my piano tech does warranty work for yamaha and says reliability on this model and most yamaha is very high.I bought this used afew years ago and am happy. For less braed Ive heard good things about casio but prob less reliable.Lesser yamahas also possibly not as well built.
Mike
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Post by keymod on Apr 12, 2019 7:46:52 GMT -6
Arturia Keylab 88 works for me
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Post by jcoutu1 on Apr 12, 2019 7:53:27 GMT -6
Arturia Keylab 88 works for me The Yamaha's are probably a great bet. I see a ton of guys playing the Yamaha's live for their stage pianos, but there are just so many models. This Arturia is on my radar. There seem to be some complaints about the keybed, but it seems like ALL of them have some complaints about the keybed. We used this at the studio recently and it got the job done. I guess ideal for me would be something that has both USB and Midi outputs. I could run a USB out to a second computer with the sounds for low latency and capture the midi in my session file. Is that over thinking it? This is how we ran a setup 2 weeks ago and it seemed to work out great. |
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Post by keymod on Apr 12, 2019 8:00:52 GMT -6
That sounds like a good way to do it.
The key bed on the arturia is a little clunky but it still feels realistic enough. I use mine just for practicing and working out song ideas, but no reason why you couldn't record good tracks with it. It would be important to find a good damper pedal arrangement for the most realism, regardless of what keyboard used
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Post by jtc111 on Apr 12, 2019 8:08:48 GMT -6
I think the M-Audio Hammer 88 is a bargain for the price. I've been very happy with it. |
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Post by M57 on Apr 12, 2019 18:40:44 GMT -6
Picking the best piano action is subjective territory depending on the player. Good players may like a harder action, but that may end up frustrating players that don't have strong chops. And are you planning on using it exclusively as a piano controller? ..or will players perhaps also be controlling EPs, organs, or synths, where a different (lighter/gooier) action is usually preferred. Unless you plan on having a number of keyboards/controllers, consider that you may be best off compromising.
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Post by indiehouse on Apr 12, 2019 19:14:49 GMT -6
Aren’t Fatar(sp?) keybeds supposed to be pretty good?
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Post by Ward on Apr 14, 2019 9:28:14 GMT -6
The older Yamaha Motif-8 keyboards have a slew of great pianos in them, fantastic action and controller options, and on top of that about another 1000 onboard sounds that are all extremely useful.
I have one and use it all the time.
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Post by the other mark williams on Apr 14, 2019 14:49:40 GMT -6
Aren’t Fatar(sp?) keybeds supposed to be pretty good? Yes, generally, but there are several different Fatar keybeds. Even just in the Nord range, for instance, you've got the TP100 ("portable" weighted on the HP Electro models), the TP80 (semi-weighted as on the non-HP versions of the Electro), and the TP40 (fully weighted as on the Nord Piano and some Nord Stage models). It's also possible to have aftertouch on some of those keybeds, but not every manufacturer uses it. The Studiologic boards generally have good implemenations of the Fatar keybed. But as some others have mentioned, the Yamaha "Graded Hammer" action is tough to beat, IMO. It feels surprisingly natural and plays well for piano sounds. It's a little bit springier than some of the Fatar keybeds, which I personally like, even though I mostly play a Nord with a TP100 these days. The TP100 is stiffer, and requires more forearm strength. At least IME. The Yamaha GH feels a bit more like a Yamaha upright as opposed to a Steinway Grand. The Yamaha boards that have good action can be found used for not a lot of coin. Pretty much any of the "P" Yamaha boards (P70, P85, P115) play quite well IMO. I had a P60 for a number of years (it's possible I still have it, but it was stored at a friend's studio that flooded last year, so I'm not sure if it made it through), and my only caution about the P60 is that the MIDI was unable to produce a full 127 velocity (this was fixed in the P70, I believe). The P60 topped out at around 109, so I had to draw a bespoke velocity curve in Logic's Environment for that specific keyboard. Sorry - too much information at the end there... |
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Post by Martin John Butler on Apr 14, 2019 15:11:37 GMT -6
I know almost nothing about keyboard controllers. I bought an Axiom Pro61 years ago because someone told me I could control my recording on my DAW with it, and that sounded cool. This was before I'd ever used a DAW, as I'd left the music business. Only later did I realize all the extras I had were for live players or real keyboard guys. I should have gotten something similar for midi control, but with a few built in sounds.
But that said... that keyboard seems to me to be the perfect middle ground, the weighted keys work nicely for piano, but things like organ or strings work well too.
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Post by Tbone81 on Apr 14, 2019 15:17:07 GMT -6
Check out Casio...believe it or not I've found many of the cheap casio 88-note pianos to have excellent keybeds. A few years ago I wanted to brush up on my (almost nonexistent) piano skills. Since I was in an apartment I was looking for something that felt real that I could just use headphones with. After playing tons of keyboards the (used) $99 casio I bought killed them all, or at least everything sub $500. But, they don't all have midi I believe, so double check if you go that route.
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Post by the other mark williams on Apr 14, 2019 16:51:39 GMT -6
Check out Casio...believe it or not I've found many of the cheap casio 88-note pianos to have excellent keybeds. A few years ago I wanted to brush up on my (almost nonexistent) piano skills. Since I was in an apartment I was looking for something that felt real that I could just use headphones with. After playing tons of keyboards the (used) $99 casio I bought killed them all, or at least everything sub $500. But, they don't all have midi I believe, so double check if you go that route. It's true! I really dig the Casio Privia series. I think they play great. And you can sometimes find them on Craigslist for really cheap, due to the brand name. |
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