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Post by Guitar on Apr 8, 2019 11:13:53 GMT -6
I just did a closely level matched shootout of my WolfBox DIY Motown DI box vs the standard Radial J48. Mic pres were identical Five Fish NK72DI with the same Neumann OA10 style op amps. Bass is an SX P style with a Fender custom shop pickup. Clip A is pick, Clip B is fingerstyle Let me know if you can hear a difference.
WolfBox vs J48 shootout files
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Post by craigmorris74 on Apr 8, 2019 12:48:07 GMT -6
Those clips are really close, and both are totally usable. The Wolfbox has a bit more weight on the bottom end-I can feel its lows more-the sound fills the speakers more to me. The Radial does a great job too, just a bit more clean.
I used to use a passive DI with a Lundahl transformer, but when I built a Wolfbox from the Triad transformer, the difference was MUCH different. The Wolfbox had tons more bottom, and gave me more of the sound that I wanted from my bass.
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 8, 2019 13:01:18 GMT -6
So what - if any - advantage will I have going through a DI vs a VP28 Platinum?
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Post by Guitar on Apr 8, 2019 13:17:44 GMT -6
So what - if any - advantage will I have going through a DI vs a VP28 Platinum? Basically I think just a different flavor of "DI" vs. Jeff's built in DI component. In my opinion this is all very subtle stuff, getting into that tweaky kind of territory. |
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Post by Guitar on Apr 8, 2019 13:20:44 GMT -6
Those clips are really close, and both are totally usable. The Wolfbox has a bit more weight on the bottom end-I can feel its lows more-the sound fills the speakers more to me. The Radial does a great job too, just a bit more clean. I used to use a passive DI with a Lundahl transformer, but when I built a Wolfbox from the Triad transformer, the difference was MUCH different. The Wolfbox had tons more bottom, and gave me more of the sound that I wanted from my bass. Cool, I agree pretty much with your assessment. I hear a little high mid "poke" on the WolfBox as well. As well as a softened transient response which is maybe the most significant part of it, sounds natural and smooth. Probably a higher THD than the J48 also. Which Triad transformer did you use in your build? Apparently there are a few different ones that can work that I am aware of, as well as other brands like UTC. |
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Post by craigmorris74 on Apr 11, 2019 21:28:20 GMT -6
I shot out the Triad A10J and A9J. I preferred the A9J. It really had the magic, and I used it in my build.
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Post by johneppstein on Jun 27, 2022 18:21:56 GMT -6
I just did a closely level matched shootout of my WolfBox DIY Motown DI box vs the standard Radial J48. Mic pres were identical Five Fish NK72DI with the same Neumann OA10 style op amps. Bass is an SX P style with a Fender custom shop pickup. Clip A is pick, Clip B is fingerstyle Let me know if you can hear a difference.
WolfBox vs J48 shootout files
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Post by johneppstein on Jun 27, 2022 18:22:27 GMT -6
I just did a closely level matched shootout of my WolfBox DIY Motown DI box vs the standard Radial J48. Mic pres were identical Five Fish NK72DI with the same Neumann OA10 style op amps. Bass is an SX P style with a Fender custom shop pickup. Clip A is pick, Clip B is fingerstyle Let me know if you can hear a difference.
WolfBox vs J48 shootout files
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Post by johneppstein on Jun 27, 2022 18:25:09 GMT -6
I understand that the original transfo company (Triad?) Is now making the original transformer again.
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Post by Guitar on Jun 27, 2022 21:13:59 GMT -6
I understand that the original transfo company (Triad?) Is now making the original transformer again.
Yeah!! I'm really interested in trying some of those! Also really interested in Jeff Steiger's CAPI transformer, haven't tried that one yet either.
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Post by dreamsambas on Jun 28, 2022 14:36:08 GMT -6
Super curious about those new Triad A12j's!
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Post by craigmorris74 on Jun 28, 2022 18:21:12 GMT -6
I would guess the new Triads are close to vintage since they have the tooling to do it right, but the metal used for the lams will be a bit different because of modern environmental law. I don’t know anyone who has tried any of their new recreations yet.
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Post by elmolemon on Jun 29, 2022 3:57:08 GMT -6
Those clips are really close, and both are totally usable. The Wolfbox has a bit more weight on the bottom end-I can feel its lows more-the sound fills the speakers more to me. The Radial does a great job too, just a bit more clean. I hear it the same way. Personally I prefer the Wolfbox tone, but depending on the context I’m sure the more clean and defined sound of the Radial has its uses. Thanks for sharing! |
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Post by tasteliketape on Jun 29, 2022 7:40:31 GMT -6
I own both of these and Dan’s wolf box is much (warmer vintage than the Radial . Since getting the Wolfbox the radial sits in the closet.jmo
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Post by dreamsambas on Jun 29, 2022 9:01:32 GMT -6
I own both of these and Dan’s wolf box is much (warmer vintage than the Radial . Since getting the Wolfbox the radial sits in the closet.jmo That's been my experience whit Dan's box as well. |
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Post by deaconblues on Jun 29, 2022 15:01:50 GMT -6
I just did a closely level matched shootout of my WolfBox DIY Motown DI box vs the standard Radial J48. Mic pres were identical Five Fish NK72DI with the same Neumann OA10 style op amps. Bass is an SX P style with a Fender custom shop pickup. Clip A is pick, Clip B is fingerstyle Let me know if you can hear a difference.
I hear a difference... The cleanliness of the Radial is fine, but I tend to prefer the THD and smoothness overall of the Wolfbox. Thanks for doing this! |
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