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Post by drumrec on Jan 17, 2019 13:00:14 GMT -6
Guys, 30 spots left Thanks for your trust Unlike previous releases we will ship 10 ahead of time to some clients for reviews Josh look forward to hearing the reviews. But even more to try it out in my studio soon! Sweet piece Josh
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Post by Quint on Jan 17, 2019 13:02:33 GMT -6
Guys, 30 spots left Thanks for your trust Unlike previous releases we will ship 10 ahead of time to some clients for reviews Josh When you say only 30 left, you are just referencing the first 100 spots for the preorder pricing, right? There will be more than just these 100 made, right?
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Post by indiehouse on Jan 17, 2019 13:35:14 GMT -6
DIY-Racked has a kit for this guy. The site is down for the moment but could be a nice kit. I've thought about that kit more than once. But I've got shelves full of unbuilt projects, and the Stam is actually less expensive!
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Post by Blackdawg on Jan 17, 2019 14:12:42 GMT -6
DIY-Racked has a kit for this guy. The site is down for the moment but could be a nice kit. I've thought about that kit more than once. But I've got shelves full of unbuilt projects, and the Stam is actually less expensive! Yeah Im about to have a lot of kits on the shelf. Not sure if the features are different or not. Site is down for the moment so couldn't look. I might put a deposit down. haven't done a Stam purchase yet. The Stamchild i really want but big chunk of change for me at the moment.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jan 17, 2019 14:41:00 GMT -6
Guys, 30 spots left Thanks for your trust Unlike previous releases we will ship 10 ahead of time to some clients for reviews Josh Hopefully I'm one of the first 10.
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Post by drbill on Jan 17, 2019 15:02:26 GMT -6
All knobs are stepped? Every single one included the threshold and gain knobs? YES!! Manufacturers should be listening to Blackdawg!! Stepped pots, and wet / dry blend are critical for me and are quickly becoming a must have for me to buy a new compressor in 2019. Also, smaller rack footprint is becoming more important for me as the racks are filling up..... <thumbsup>
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jan 17, 2019 15:16:30 GMT -6
Wow. I need to win the lottery.
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Post by Quint on Jan 17, 2019 15:21:04 GMT -6
All knobs are stepped? Every single one included the threshold and gain knobs? YES!! Manufacturers should be listening to Blackdawg!! Stepped pots, and wet / dry blend are critical for me and are quickly becoming a must have for me to buy a new compressor in 2019. Also, smaller rack footprint is becoming more important for me as the racks are filling up..... <thumbsup> I suppose it also depends on whether or not you want dual mono control. If you're someone who intends to use a compressor of this type primarily as a stereo bus compressor, I would agree. However, if someone intends to use this type of compressor during tracking, dual mono could be very important and worth the extra rack space. You won't get any argument from me on the wet/dry knob though. I wish every compressor had that feature.
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Post by indiehouse on Jan 17, 2019 15:36:23 GMT -6
stam, how difficult would it be to add a wet/dry in between the bypass/dual mono switches?
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Post by wiz on Jan 17, 2019 15:51:57 GMT -6
Guys, 30 spots left Thanks for your trust Unlike previous releases we will ship 10 ahead of time to some clients for reviews Josh Ahem... cough ....cough.... Teacher Teacher 8) Cheers Wiz
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 17, 2019 16:14:38 GMT -6
Dear me, Wiz seems to have caught a nasty cough in the land of sun and surf: is nothing sacred ?!
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Post by ericn on Jan 17, 2019 16:56:18 GMT -6
All knobs are stepped? Every single one included the threshold and gain knobs? YES!! Manufacturers should be listening to Blackdawg!! Stepped pots, and wet / dry blend are critical for me and are quickly becoming a must have for me to buy a new compressor in 2019. Also, smaller rack footprint is becoming more important for me as the racks are filling up..... <thumbsup> Man, I have to say stepped pots are pretty useless, they offer no true repeatability, no guarantee of matching settings between units. Stepped pots are not stepped attenuators.
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Post by Blackdawg on Jan 17, 2019 17:07:18 GMT -6
YES!! Manufacturers should be listening to Blackdawg!! Stepped pots, and wet / dry blend are critical for me and are quickly becoming a must have for me to buy a new compressor in 2019. Also, smaller rack footprint is becoming more important for me as the racks are filling up..... <thumbsup> Man, I have to say stepped pots are pretty useless, they offer no true repeatability, no guarantee of matching settings between units. Stepped pots are not stepped attenuators. True. But I bet it'll match a lot closer if you know exactly where you had it vs worrying about it being somewhere around "here" according to the line I drew on a recall sheet that was also basically a guess. It still makes recall much faster and like I said a lot closer to what it probably was at last time. Perfect? No. But hell, the gear itself changes all the time so there is no such thing as perfect recall with analog.
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Post by ericn on Jan 17, 2019 17:19:48 GMT -6
Man, I have to say stepped pots are pretty useless, they offer no true repeatability, no guarantee of matching settings between units. Stepped pots are not stepped attenuators. True. But I bet it'll match a lot closer if you know exactly where you had it vs worrying about it being somewhere around "here" according to the line I drew on a recall sheet that was also basically a guess. It still makes recall much faster and like I said a lot closer to what it probably was at last time. Perfect? No. But hell, the gear itself changes all the time so there is no such thing as perfect recall with analog. It’s debatable if they are any closer than the old line drawn on the front panel.
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Post by Blackdawg on Jan 17, 2019 17:30:25 GMT -6
True. But I bet it'll match a lot closer if you know exactly where you had it vs worrying about it being somewhere around "here" according to the line I drew on a recall sheet that was also basically a guess. It still makes recall much faster and like I said a lot closer to what it probably was at last time. Perfect? No. But hell, the gear itself changes all the time so there is no such thing as perfect recall with analog. It’s debatable if they are any closer than the old line drawn on the front panel. Of course. Tolerances and what not. But it is still a nice feature.
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Post by drbill on Jan 17, 2019 17:34:36 GMT -6
YES!! Manufacturers should be listening to Blackdawg!! Stepped pots, and wet / dry blend are critical for me and are quickly becoming a must have for me to buy a new compressor in 2019. Also, smaller rack footprint is becoming more important for me as the racks are filling up..... <thumbsup> Man, I have to say stepped pots are pretty useless, they offer no true repeatability, no guarantee of matching settings between units. Stepped pots are not stepped attenuators. I'm aware of their shortcomings. They offer 100% repeatability per the unit itself, but not perfect L/R matching between two units. I completely understand the difference between stepped pots and stepped switches.
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Post by drbill on Jan 17, 2019 17:36:36 GMT -6
YES!! Manufacturers should be listening to Blackdawg!! Stepped pots, and wet / dry blend are critical for me and are quickly becoming a must have for me to buy a new compressor in 2019. Also, smaller rack footprint is becoming more important for me as the racks are filling up..... <thumbsup> I suppose it also depends on whether or not you want dual mono control. If you're someone who intends to use a compressor of this type primarily as a stereo bus compressor, I would agree. However, if someone intends to use this type of compressor during tracking, dual mono could be very important and worth the extra rack space. You won't get any argument from me on the wet/dry knob though. I wish every compressor had that feature. Yes. There are definite compromises with each side having their positives and negatives. I have enough compressors that I prefer a "dual" or "stereo" compressor to have true stereo controls and stepped pots for recall aspects during mixing. I'll take the hit on not being able to be used as Dual Mono. Cheers,
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Post by ericn on Jan 17, 2019 19:06:22 GMT -6
Man, I have to say stepped pots are pretty useless, they offer no true repeatability, no guarantee of matching settings between units. Stepped pots are not stepped attenuators. I'm aware of their shortcomings. They offer 100% repeatability per the unit itself, but not perfect L/R matching between two units. I completely understand the difference between stepped pots and stepped switches. If I remember a conversation with one of the engineers from ALPs a lifetime ago The repeatability steps and even detents of pots is a myth. The mechanism for the steps is separate part and there is a large degree of slippage almost every time you turn it. He also much to my disappointment had some disturbing figures on the recall of motorized faders including P&G.
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Post by drbill on Jan 17, 2019 20:07:58 GMT -6
I'm aware of their shortcomings. They offer 100% repeatability per the unit itself, but not perfect L/R matching between two units. I completely understand the difference between stepped pots and stepped switches. If I remember a conversation with one of the engineers from ALPs a lifetime ago The repeatability steps and even detents of pots is a myth. The mechanism for the steps is separate part and there is a large degree of slippage almost every time you turn it. He also much to my disappointment had some disturbing figures on the recall of motorized faders including P&G. Hmmmmm.....never heard that before Eric. Interesting. I'll have to check into it. In normal usage, I've never noticed. There is of course tolerance in all pots / resistors.
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Post by stam on Jan 18, 2019 4:07:36 GMT -6
Guys,
First 100 to pre-order price has dropped to 990 USD. Savings are 300 dollars for those who wish to place a deposit and wait for them to be built.
Same with the Sony C800G replica, it also dropped to 990 USD, savings here are 500 USD!
We realize a lot of people felt that it was not worth it to save 200 USD and wanted to get them in stock. Hopefully this will change their minds. We really want to plan the year ahead and have a great year.
Everybody who pre-ordered already will get this price by the way Josh
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 18, 2019 4:21:21 GMT -6
Good move Joshua, while the $200 discount is good, there is the trailing shipping charge, so a $300 up front discount is an even better incentive.
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Post by drumhead57 on Jan 18, 2019 4:59:27 GMT -6
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 18, 2019 5:27:06 GMT -6
Joshua, I thought when you launched the Sa800 here , you offered it to us with no labour charge and it was already sub $900? Please clarify: thx!
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Post by hadaja on Jan 18, 2019 5:39:55 GMT -6
How many spots left on the 100 x of the sa-800 so i know if i qualify? Thanks
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Post by stam on Jan 18, 2019 8:49:50 GMT -6
About 45!
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