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Post by swurveman on Jan 5, 2019 16:09:07 GMT -6
Man, these used IZ Radar are getting inexpensive. Here's one on eBay with digital i/o for $1,499.00 For you Radar guys: What the anticipated life span for these? Ooops: Just noticed it has no analog i/o. Not knowing much about Radar: Why would a studio have no analog i/o in their Radar unit? |
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 5, 2019 16:31:54 GMT -6
Probably the guy kept those modules. Lifespan is forever and a day as you can ship units to Vancouver for upgrades and refurbishing and they also upgrades the storage options. If you seriously bump into a good more current radar deal: I wouldn’t broadcast it: just jump on it!  |
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Post by keymod on Jan 6, 2019 4:42:41 GMT -6
A lot of RADARs were/are used as conversion, in addition to recording capability. Options, besides analog, are AES/EBU, ADAT Optical, Tascam and MADI. The new owner of IZ is doing a lot to keep the older units running, which is welcome news to me as I have an older RADAR24. Combined with the controller, they really are incredible. I use mine as the main recorder via analog, then use it for conversion via ADAT from my PC with an RME Raydat card while using a DAW for mixing. Not sure how you can use one without the controller though. IZ made two controllers. Perhaps Paul ( nobtwiddler ) will chime in - he uses RADARs on a regular basis.
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Post by swurveman on Jan 6, 2019 8:19:56 GMT -6
A lot of RADARs were/are used as conversion, in addition to recording capability. Options, besides analog, are AES/EBU, ADAT Optical, Tascam and MADI. The new owner of IZ is doing a lot to keep the older units running, which is welcome news to me as I have an older RADAR24. Combined with the controller, they really are incredible. I use mine as the main recorder via analog, then use it for conversion via ADAT from my PC with an RME Raydat card while using a DAW for mixing. Not sure how you can use one without the controller though. IZ made two controllers. Perhaps Paul ( nobtwiddler ) will chime in - he uses RADARs on a regular basis. Thanks for your response keymod. When you say "used as conversion" how would you use the unit I linked for a/d conversion? |
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Post by keymod on Jan 6, 2019 10:19:22 GMT -6
So that unit looks as if it's either Tascam or AES/EBU. Since there are no analog cards installed you can't use it for conversion.
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Post by svart on Jan 6, 2019 10:37:09 GMT -6
A lot of RADARs were/are used as conversion, in addition to recording capability. Options, besides analog, are AES/EBU, ADAT Optical, Tascam and MADI. The new owner of IZ is doing a lot to keep the older units running, which is welcome news to me as I have an older RADAR24. Combined with the controller, they really are incredible. I use mine as the main recorder via analog, then use it for conversion via ADAT from my PC with an RME Raydat card while using a DAW for mixing. Not sure how you can use one without the controller though. IZ made two controllers. Perhaps Paul ( nobtwiddler ) will chime in - he uses RADARs on a regular basis. Thanks for your response keymod. When you say "used as conversion" how would you use the unit I linked for a/d conversion? I think they can arm the analog I/O and send/return it from the digital (AES) I/O. At least that's how the alesis hd24 guys did it. Not sure though. |
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Post by keymod on Jan 6, 2019 11:43:16 GMT -6
Thanks for your response keymod. When you say "used as conversion" how would you use the unit I linked for a/d conversion? I think they can arm the analog I/O and send/return it from the digital (AES) I/O. At least that's how the alesis hd24 guys did it. Not sure though. Exactly. Interestingly, RADAR outputs on all available formats simultaneously, IIRC. |
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Post by swurveman on Jan 6, 2019 13:32:55 GMT -6
I think they can arm the analog I/O and send/return it from the digital (AES) I/O. At least that's how the alesis hd24 guys did it. Not sure though. Exactly. Interestingly, RADAR outputs on all available formats simultaneously, IIRC. So, if I added an analog card to the unit I linked with the aes digital out, does that mean I could connect the digital out to my RME AES 32 PCIE card and input into individual Pro Tools/Cubase channels? If so, how do people monitor? |
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Post by keymod on Jan 6, 2019 14:14:54 GMT -6
AFAIK, monitoring RADAR needs a console, or summing mixer.
Best to contact IZ customer support with questions. They are legendary.
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Post by swurveman on Jan 6, 2019 14:53:14 GMT -6
AFAIK, monitoring RADAR needs a console, or summing mixer. Best to contact IZ customer support with questions. They are legendary. Thanks. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 6, 2019 15:33:20 GMT -6
Please keep us in the loop !
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Post by notneeson on Jan 6, 2019 16:27:34 GMT -6
I believe the newer Radar systems can run Pro Tools etc. so ITB mixing would be possible. Don’t know the particulars, and I think the OP is probably talking about an older version.
But still interesting.
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Post by nobtwiddler on Jan 6, 2019 18:44:18 GMT -6
Radar 11, 24, V, VI, are all basically 24 track recorders,
The newest model Radar Studio, can run in Radar mode, or any of the DAW's available once loaded in the machine.
I've owned a few of each version.
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 6, 2019 18:54:41 GMT -6
other than Radar’s ability to run in other daws, would you recommend any one over another or just the newer the better ?
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Post by ericn on Jan 6, 2019 20:36:25 GMT -6
Lots of documentation on the IZ site so you can see what will do what.
Lots of machines out there with TDIF, if somebody says AES I want pucks of the board!
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Post by keymod on Jan 7, 2019 8:30:17 GMT -6
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