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Post by mitchkricun on Dec 17, 2018 8:09:22 GMT -6
This thing looks really cool. But man, that guy in the first two videos is using a lot of reverb. I'm guessing that's not baked into the sounds? It looks like he's cranked up the reverb in Kontakt, maybe? I'm also not hearing much body in the samples in the videos. But in the acoustic guitar example toward the end of the third video, the guitars sound pretty thin to me also, so I'm wondering if it's just the way he's got everything EQ'd? Any thoughts from those of you who have it? I’ve had this VI for awhile now, and I agree. While convenient, I don’t think the samples sound that good. Btw, if you have Spectrosonics Stylus RMX, it’s even more convenient. |
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Post by indiehouse on Dec 17, 2018 12:57:51 GMT -6
This thing looks really cool. But man, that guy in the first two videos is using a lot of reverb. I'm guessing that's not baked into the sounds? It looks like he's cranked up the reverb in Kontakt, maybe? I'm also not hearing much body in the samples in the videos. But in the acoustic guitar example toward the end of the third video, the guitars sound pretty thin to me also, so I'm wondering if it's just the way he's got everything EQ'd? Any thoughts from those of you who have it? I’ve had this VI for awhile now, and I agree. While convenient, I don’t think the samples sound that good. Btw, if you have Spectrosonics Stylus RMX, it’s even more convenient. Meh, sounds ok to me. I mean, what do you want from shakers and tambourines? I suppose if I wanted the ultimate recording, I'd fire up my U67 into my Coil Audio CA-70S into my Highland Dynamics BG2 into my Great River EQ-2NV. And then I'll bury it in the mix because it's a shaker. I'm kidding (kind of). I find it useful. If I need more huminization, I'll lay it down myself. But it's not bad for idea kindling. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Dec 17, 2018 17:24:36 GMT -6
is it just me or are the attacks a little behind the beat?
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Post by the other mark williams on Dec 18, 2018 14:45:47 GMT -6
I’ve had this VI for awhile now, and I agree. While convenient, I don’t think the samples sound that good. Btw, if you have Spectrosonics Stylus RMX, it’s even more convenient. Meh, sounds ok to me. I mean, what do you want from shakers and tambourines? I suppose if I wanted the ultimate recording, I'd fire up my U67 into my Coil Audio CA-70S into my Highland Dynamics BG2 into my Great River EQ-2NV. And then I'll bury it in the mix because it's a shaker. I'm kidding (kind of). I find it useful. If I need more huminization, I'll lay it down myself. But it's not bad for idea kindling. Well, I'll tell you what I want. I want samples of shakers and tambourines that sound alive and have body. I want some thickness with contained transients, because they were recorded through some Neves or similar with a vibey mic. I want old wooden tambourines where the finish has rubbed off the smooth wood underneath, and shakers that sound woody instead of plasticky. What I don't want is tinny samples that sound like they were recorded with a stock Chinese LDC through an audio interface preamp and then highpassed at 3k. Now look, I'm not saying that's how these sound. I haven't even had a chance to open them up for myself yet. Maybe they're great. It's just that far too many percussive samples sound that way to me. I have done a lot of work with singer/songwriters over the years who want some simple percussion rather than full drums. But I have yet to find a great sample set (integrated into a player/programmer) that can pull this off. Far too many percussion sample sets seem to assume the percussion is an adjunct to the drum track, rather than the main rhythmic part. The best sounds I've heard are probably from that Eric Darken set from That Sound. |
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Post by indiehouse on Dec 18, 2018 14:48:08 GMT -6
Meh, sounds ok to me. I mean, what do you want from shakers and tambourines? I suppose if I wanted the ultimate recording, I'd fire up my U67 into my Coil Audio CA-70S into my Highland Dynamics BG2 into my Great River EQ-2NV. And then I'll bury it in the mix because it's a shaker. I'm kidding (kind of). I find it useful. If I need more huminization, I'll lay it down myself. But it's not bad for idea kindling. Well, I'll tell you what I want. I want samples of shakers and tambourines that sound alive and have body. I want some thickness with contained transients, because they were recorded through some Neves or similar with a vibey mic. I want old wooden tambourines where the finish has rubbed off the smooth wood underneath, and shakers that sound woody instead of plasticky. What I don't want is tinny samples that sound like they were recorded with a stock Chinese LDC through an audio interface preamp and then highpassed at 3k. Now look, I'm not saying that's how these sound. I haven't even had a chance to open them up for myself yet. Maybe they're great. It's just that far too many percussive samples sound that way to me. I have done a lot of work with singer/songwriters over the years who want some simple percussion rather than full drums. But I have yet to find a great sample set (integrated into a player/programmer) that can pull this off. Far too many percussion sample sets seem to assume the percussion is an adjunct to the drum track, rather than the main rhythmic part. The best sounds I've heard are probably from that Eric Darken set from That Sound. Dude, yeah! I picked up the organic set from That Sound. Sounds really good. |
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Post by the other mark williams on Dec 18, 2018 14:58:11 GMT -6
Well, I'll tell you what I want. I want samples of shakers and tambourines that sound alive and have body. I want some thickness with contained transients, because they were recorded through some Neves or similar with a vibey mic. I want old wooden tambourines where the finish has rubbed off the smooth wood underneath, and shakers that sound woody instead of plasticky. What I don't want is tinny samples that sound like they were recorded with a stock Chinese LDC through an audio interface preamp and then highpassed at 3k. Now look, I'm not saying that's how these sound. I haven't even had a chance to open them up for myself yet. Maybe they're great. It's just that far too many percussive samples sound that way to me. I have done a lot of work with singer/songwriters over the years who want some simple percussion rather than full drums. But I have yet to find a great sample set (integrated into a player/programmer) that can pull this off. Far too many percussion sample sets seem to assume the percussion is an adjunct to the drum track, rather than the main rhythmic part. The best sounds I've heard are probably from that Eric Darken set from That Sound. Dude, yeah! I picked up the organic set from That Sound. Sounds really good. Nice! I haven't even bought it yet, but within a minute of listening to the demo, I was like "oooh - hell yes!" I love Eric's work. Are there any EXS24 MIDI loops I should be aware of that might work with that pack? |
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Post by indiehouse on Dec 18, 2018 15:16:43 GMT -6
Dude, yeah! I picked up the organic set from That Sound. Sounds really good. Nice! I haven't even bought it yet, but within a minute of listening to the demo, I was like "oooh - hell yes!" I love Eric's work. Are there any EXS24 MIDI loops I should be aware of that might work with that pack? I have no idea. I thought it came with a bunch of midi loops already? |
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Post by the other mark williams on Dec 18, 2018 16:11:14 GMT -6
Nice! I haven't even bought it yet, but within a minute of listening to the demo, I was like "oooh - hell yes!" I love Eric's work. Are there any EXS24 MIDI loops I should be aware of that might work with that pack? I have no idea. I thought it came with a bunch of midi loops already? i *think* it comes with *audio* loops, not MIDI loops. But I could be wrong. |
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Post by ragan on Jan 6, 2019 21:57:35 GMT -6
I just bought this. The video clip had me sold in 10 seconds. I've been wanting something like this forever. I always build relatively elaborate shaker/tambo/maraca grooves just to use as a click as I build my tracks. Takes forever doing it manually and if you decide you want to change the tempo...do it all over.
This will be a little bit of a game changer for me.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 7, 2019 12:55:02 GMT -6
I had trouble in PT's...apparently you have to right click the delay comp below the fader and click "Disable plug-in delay" for it to trigger correctly.
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Post by the other mark williams on Jan 7, 2019 13:46:21 GMT -6
I had trouble in PT's...apparently you have to right click the delay comp below the fader and click "Disable plug-in delay" for it to trigger correctly. Are you talking about "right click[ing] the delay comp below the fader" in Pro Tools? Sorry for my ignorance - it's been nearly 15 years since I used Pro Tools. I finally had a chance to play around with this plugin last night in Logic. It doesn't appear to play behind the beat here, but I haven't pulled up Superior Drummer to check the two of them together or anything yet. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 7, 2019 14:43:33 GMT -6
Yes - I think it's specifically a PT problem.
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Post by indiehouse on Jan 7, 2019 20:57:32 GMT -6
I had trouble in PT's...apparently you have to right click the delay comp below the fader and click "Disable plug-in delay" for it to trigger correctly. Do you mean trigger off of the host tempo? |
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 7, 2019 21:23:03 GMT -6
I had trouble in PT's...apparently you have to right click the delay comp below the fader and click "Disable plug-in delay" for it to trigger correctly. Do you mean trigger off of the host tempo? It was weird. It wasn’t triggering on the downbeat when you like drew in a midi note for a pattern. |
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