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Post by Tbone81 on Nov 2, 2018 17:01:06 GMT -6
I've been laboring over this for a while now and need some sage advice. I have 10 channels of CAPI pres that I love but just don't need anymore. I used to record a lot of drums in my own space but since moving to a new state I only have a small room in my house and its just so much easier, and cheaper to rent a larger pro studio whenever I need it. I've already sold off a bunch of mics but I'm not sure what to do with these preamps. I'd like to sell them and fund another purchase. Was thinking I could get something like a Vintech 473 and a nice compressor, which would be much more practical than what I currently have.
Right now I use the vp28's as channel faders, I put them last in line with anything I record and use them to set levels going to the DAW. Its like having a mini console...its pretty cool, and it looks cool in my rack too! If I sell them I'd like to replace with 4 channels of preamps that I can track with and use on hardware inserts during mixdown for a little mojo. I currently use a pair of aml1073's, RND 542's, and my Sebatron pres as hardware inserts during mix down and its awesome.
So my options are this:
Sell all 10 channels of CAPI's and buy a 4 channel preamp, and a nice compressor
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Sell 6 channels of CAPI's (keep the vp28's) and buy 4 channels of eq to go with them.
Either way I just can't justify keeping them all. Please help me decide. I'll be buying used whenever I can, and trying to keep preamp purchase to $2000 if I go that route. If it helps, I record guitars (acoustic & electric), bass, keys, vocals and hand percussion here. Drums are always tracked at bigger studios.
The preamps I currently own:
aml1073 x2
Sebatron vmp-4000 (4 channels)
UA LA-610
CAPI x 10 (vp28 x4, vp26 x4, vp312di x2)
Preamps I'm considering:
UA-710D
Manley Force
Phoenix Audio DRS q4 (x2)
Vintech 473
SSL VHD (x2)
Daking IV
Heritage HA73eq (2-4 channels)
Compressors I'm looking at:
Buzz Audio DBC
Audio Scape D-comp (Remi)
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Post by Quint on Nov 2, 2018 17:33:14 GMT -6
I would at least keep the four channels of VP28s. For reasons you and I both know you should do so.  Which would also maybe preclude any reason to buy any other preamps, right? |
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Post by Tbone81 on Nov 2, 2018 18:06:43 GMT -6
Right, one way or the other I only need the 4 pre's, so If I keep the CAPI's (which is hard to argue with) I'll be fine and wont need to buy any other pre's. However I've seen some great prices on the Vintech 473 (as low as $2000), which seems like a damn great deal. I've never heard the vintech but trading API's for more Neve's is never a bad idea, right?
I'm trying to come out ahead with a little money left over (to dump into a compressor) and with a more practical setup. I'm trying really hard to let my pragmatic side win this one...its very hard making gear decisions logically lol.
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Post by ericn on Nov 2, 2018 18:24:15 GMT -6
How about sell them all and buy Swervmans 4 used Vintech X73i’s
For say 3500 or less 4 Neve pres with EQ.
Somebody grab these before I mortgage my Kids Kidney ( for some reason nobody will give you anything if you were on 24 hour dialysis).
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Post by indiehouse on Nov 2, 2018 18:58:13 GMT -6
Right, one way or the other I only need the 4 pre's, so If I keep the CAPI's (which is hard to argue with) I'll be fine and wont need to buy any other pre's. However I've seen some great prices on the Vintech 473 (as low as $2000), which seems like a damn great deal. I've never heard the vintech but trading API's for more Neve's is never a bad idea, right? I'm trying to come out ahead with a little money left over (to dump into a compressor) and with a more practical setup. I'm trying really hard to let my pragmatic side win this one...its very hard making gear decisions logically lol. You’ll come out the most ahead (financially) by keeping the VP28’s. They are really awesome preamps, so most other things would be different, not better. Besides, you’ll be lucky to clear 400 on the VP28’s. The market is saturated with guys building these things for peanuts. |
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Post by Tbone81 on Nov 2, 2018 18:59:07 GMT -6
Funny you should mention it, his post is what got me to start looking at Vintech. It’s crossed my mind
Can anyway compare the Vintechs to the aml ez1073’s I have? Wondering on the difference.
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Post by Tbone81 on Nov 2, 2018 19:51:30 GMT -6
Right, one way or the other I only need the 4 pre's, so If I keep the CAPI's (which is hard to argue with) I'll be fine and wont need to buy any other pre's. However I've seen some great prices on the Vintech 473 (as low as $2000), which seems like a damn great deal. I've never heard the vintech but trading API's for more Neve's is never a bad idea, right? I'm trying to come out ahead with a little money left over (to dump into a compressor) and with a more practical setup. I'm trying really hard to let my pragmatic side win this one...its very hard making gear decisions logically lol. You’ll come out the most ahead (financially) by keeping the VP28’s. They are really awesome preamps, so most other things would be different, not better. Besides, you’ll be lucky to clear 400 on the VP28’s. The market is saturated with guys building these things for peanuts. Good financial point. Quality wise I’m not looking for better. I figure any move would be a Sideways move, and I’m Ok with that. To be honest, as much as I love my vp28’s, I love my aml 1073s more, sebatrons too. |
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Post by drsax on Nov 3, 2018 8:33:46 GMT -6
Funny you should mention it, his post is what got me to start looking at Vintech. It’s crossed my mind Can anyway compare the Vintechs to the aml ez1073’s I have? Wondering on the difference. I had the Vintech 473 and have the AML ez1073’s. The AML Pres are thicker and closer to vintage 1073’s. The Vintech are leaner and less saturated sounding but in the same Camp. Both nice but I prefer the AML pre. |
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Post by Guitar on Nov 3, 2018 9:26:18 GMT -6
tough call... I would maybe sell the VP26 and save the money for other kinds of gear
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Post by bartacusad on Nov 3, 2018 9:50:04 GMT -6
Funny you should mention it, his post is what got me to start looking at Vintech. It’s crossed my mind Can anyway compare the Vintechs to the aml ez1073’s I have? Wondering on the difference. I prefer the AML 1073 to the Vintech. It’s just beefier to me. |
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Post by jcoutu1 on Nov 3, 2018 10:22:43 GMT -6
If you already have the 2x73's, 4xsebs, and the LA, why do you even need another 4 channels of preamps? Why not sell all the CAPI and grab some eq and comps?
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Post by Tbone81 on Nov 3, 2018 10:54:24 GMT -6
If you already have the 2x73's, 4xsebs, and the LA, why do you even need another 4 channels of preamps? Why not sell all the CAPI and grab some eq and comps? Damn your voice of reason! Lol. Yes you’re right. I don’t need them, that’s exactly why I need help. I really need to be practical with my setup. Along those lines I thought of replacing them with Phoenix audio drs q4’s. Never heard the Phoenix stuff in person but it would give me eq and pres if I ever needed them. |
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Post by Tbone81 on Nov 3, 2018 10:58:14 GMT -6
Funny you should mention it, his post is what got me to start looking at Vintech. It’s crossed my mind Can anyway compare the Vintechs to the aml ez1073’s I have? Wondering on the difference. I had the Vintech 473 and have the AML ez1073’s. The AML Pres are thicker and closer to vintage 1073’s. The Vintech are leaner and less saturated sounding but in the same Camp. Both nice but I prefer the AML pre. Thx! That’s exactly what I wanted to know. Is that beefy, saturated quality that makes me love the aml’s |
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Post by Tbone81 on Nov 3, 2018 10:59:49 GMT -6
Anyone compare the aml1073s to the new heritage elite stuff?
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Post by swurveman on Nov 3, 2018 11:02:24 GMT -6
How about sell them all and buy Swervmans 4 used Vintech X73i’s For say 3500 or less 4 Neve pres with EQ. Somebody grab these before I mortgage my Kids Kidney ( for some reason nobody will give you anything if you were on 24 hour dialysis). Thanks for the bump Eric! The 473 is nice, but the X73i has way more EQ options than the shelving on the 473. The ability to either EQ while tracking, or use the X73i's EQ for mixing as a hardware insert is really powerful. |
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Post by drbill on Nov 3, 2018 11:03:01 GMT -6
I'd keep at least a pair of vp28's and the AML's. Those alone should get you through most anything. And they'd fit in a 6 sp lunchbox.
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Post by Tbone81 on Nov 3, 2018 11:15:10 GMT -6
I'd keep at least a pair of vp28's and the AML's. Those alone should get you through most anything. And they'd fit in a 6 sp lunchbox. You’d have to pry the aml’s out of my cold dead hands to get them from me! |
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Post by soundintheround on Nov 5, 2018 14:04:11 GMT -6
I'd keep at least a pair of vp28's and the AML's. Those alone should get you through most anything. And they'd fit in a 6 sp lunchbox. I agree with this. 1073LB with 1073EQ nice too.
Add an 1176/LA-2A (original or re-issue if you can swing it) and you would be set.
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