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Post by mrholmes on Oct 1, 2018 5:32:19 GMT -6
I started a new song with lectronic drums and wanted to see if this works with real palyers.
In the end it was good but not my thing.
I used logic drummer again again he can sond very real if you use the drum romm which is recordd with the samples.
Now I have natural sounding drum kit over fx vocals and synths, guitars etc......
The thing is I like it!! Is my good taste lost?
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Post by kcatthedog on Oct 1, 2018 5:55:16 GMT -6
Ah, how would we know: no file ?
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Post by iamasound on Oct 1, 2018 13:40:24 GMT -6
Brother, where for art thy song?
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Post by johneppstein on Oct 1, 2018 14:47:57 GMT -6
I don't know - I haven't bitten you recently!
Sorry, couldn't resist....
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Post by ericn on Oct 2, 2018 20:36:36 GMT -6
I don't know - I haven't bitten you recently!
Sorry, couldn't resist....
And in the past ? John was this during your hot vampire phase?😎
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Post by donr on Oct 2, 2018 21:04:05 GMT -6
It's the song. Over the decades post drum machine, there's been plenty of great examples of pop music with the metronomic timing of the drum groove and the DAW, as well as plenty of appreciation for the natural or conducted interaction of live musicians as far as time goes. Is it a good song? Does it move you? The song will carry your listener or not, at the point of your listener's ear.
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Post by jtc111 on Oct 3, 2018 0:48:59 GMT -6
Turn it up. I can barely hear it.
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Post by mrholmes on Oct 3, 2018 10:05:51 GMT -6
It's the song. Over the decades post drum machine, there's been plenty of great examples of pop music with the metronomic timing of the drum groove and the DAW, as well as plenty of appreciation for the natural or conducted interaction of live musicians as far as time goes. Is it a good song? Does it move you? The song will carry your listener or not, at the point of your listener's ear.
I think you nailed it the song is not good enough ... one of those ideas you first think how great they are.....
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Post by stratboy on Oct 3, 2018 11:56:39 GMT -6
I’d dtill like to hear the song, mrholmres. Can you please post a link?
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Oct 3, 2018 16:26:09 GMT -6
Without even hearing I would say no. Good music is good music. Some guys play a 20k kit, some beat on a 5 dollar frying pan. If it moves you and me, go with it.
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Post by iamasound on Oct 4, 2018 0:44:13 GMT -6
You are brilliant! You have extended John Cage's seminal 4'33", transformed it into something "other" by foregoing the live setting and having us the audience only muse the ramblings of our own inner environment. You have even gone as far as leaving your piece untitled, which lends still one more layer, that of mysticism. This, if not any other of your catalogue, shall land you in the annals of greatness. Thank you for sharing.
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Post by kilroyrock on Oct 4, 2018 7:36:36 GMT -6
To take the chance this is a serious discussion - drum machine drums does not equal bad song. While my taste is my taste, Billy Corgan was able to incorporate it well in the later pumpkins, as well as Butch Vig in the Garbage records. The samples are also now much more realistic and have become commonplace in pop music as a replacement for the actual drum tracks (if they were recorded) to get the loudest "thack" you can, or even just a familiar one, so you are instantly comfortable with a new song, as it keeps a level of nostalgia going across artists. Easily accessible tools like Slate's Trigger, and the samples it comes with, are among most AAA level signed rock bands of the last decade.
But hey, if you like it, who cares, right? A good song transcends the recording, as so evident by my 90's 8 track weezer demos like Paperface that still make my blood pump when it comes on.
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Post by mrholmes on Oct 6, 2018 3:17:25 GMT -6
To take the chance this is a serious discussion - drum machine drums does not equal bad song. While my taste is my taste, Billy Corgan was able to incorporate it well in the later pumpkins, as well as Butch Vig in the Garbage records. The samples are also now much more realistic and have become commonplace in pop music as a replacement for the actual drum tracks (if they were recorded) to get the loudest "thack" you can, or even just a familiar one, so you are instantly comfortable with a new song, as it keeps a level of nostalgia going across artists. Easily accessible tools like Slate's Trigger, and the samples it comes with, are among most AAA level signed rock bands of the last decade. But hey, if you like it, who cares, right? A good song transcends the recording, as so evident by my 90's 8 track weezer demos like Paperface that still make my blood pump when it comes on.
Its a serious discussion and I will post a sample, as soon I am happy with my first Chorus.... thnaks to you guys I fumbeld Logic Drummer more and I found out how the damn thing also can play a very convincing crescendo.
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Post by iamasound on Oct 6, 2018 18:39:45 GMT -6
Drum machines can definately be used with real players. My buddy Rick Iantosca (RIP) won a Grammy using one on Jimmy Cliff's album Cliff Hanger...for Reggae even, which was kind of incredible to me.
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Post by mrholmes on Oct 9, 2018 16:37:51 GMT -6
BTW if I remeber right this one was a drum machine as well....
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Post by wiz on Oct 9, 2018 19:38:13 GMT -6
BTW if I remeber right this one was a drum machine as well.... I think that was crazy mama... cheers Wiz
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