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Post by Blackdawg on Sept 19, 2018 20:56:12 GMT -6
Anyone have any experience with this box?
Im trying to build up a nice analog mastering setup as its something I very much enjoy doing and want to start doing that freelancing on the side of my full time recording gig.
Theres lots of ways to go with the AD/DA setup but this unit seems like a good deal to start with for a while.
Looking for experiences.
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Post by jeromemason on Sept 20, 2018 1:12:49 GMT -6
I've heard it's very good. My Antelope Satori is the most pristine sounding rack gear I've ever heard. Honestly though if I were you, I'd look at the Pro-ject S2 for your DAC and then something like my Lavry AD-10 I'm selling in the classifieds  I'll make you a good deal on it and you can push the hell out of that converter to jack those volumes up without it busting up. You can get a good +6db out of it while it still sounds very smooth, that's what Lavry's are famous for. With that setup you'd be well below the Pure 2's cost and I think you'd actually have a lot more bang for your buck. |
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Post by matt on Sept 20, 2018 8:30:25 GMT -6
I've been using a Pure2 for a couple of years now as my main 2-bus A/D/A. It is clean and takes level well. I believe it has some sort of soft limiting similar to Apogee- but it will produce overs if you push it too hard. I do not have it connected via USB -I use the optical connections- and have only updated the firmware once, successfully. Some users have had issues with certain Antelope products where software/firmware issues impact reliability. I've had zero issues with mine.
How much do I like it? It replaced a pair of Burl Bombers. I now use my B2 ADC for tracking; the B2 DAC is sitting idle.
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Post by Blackdawg on Sept 20, 2018 9:39:11 GMT -6
I've heard it's very good. My Antelope Satori is the most pristine sounding rack gear I've ever heard. Honestly though if I were you, I'd look at the Pro-ject S2 for your DAC and then something like my Lavry AD-10 I'm selling in the classifieds I'll make you a good deal on it and you can push the hell out of that converter to jack those volumes up without it busting up. You can get a good +6db out of it while it still sounds very smooth, that's what Lavry's are famous for. With that setup you'd be well below the Pure 2's cost and I think you'd actually have a lot more bang for your buck. Thanks Jerome. I actually bought your BLA Red Sparrow a few years back. Was chuckling to myself as I eyed your AD10 as it looks super appealing. I still have the sparrow and like it. But want something new. How would you compare the two? And more importantly, what are you going to replace the AD10 with?? Hadn't thought about using the S2. That's not a bad idea. Wish it had XLR or 1/4'' outputs though. Unbalanced RCAs would impart some noise i think into the signal chain possibly. They pop up used for around 1500-1800 now too(the Pure2) and I think thats a great price. I've been using a Pure2 for a couple of years now as my main 2-bus A/D/A. It is clean and takes level well. I believe it has some sort of soft limiting similar to Apogee- but it will produce overs if you push it too hard. I do not have it connected via USB -I use the optical connections- and have only updated the firmware once, successfully. Some users have had issues with certain Antelope products where software/firmware issues impact reliability. I've had zero issues with mine. How much do I like it? It replaced a pair of Burl Bombers. I now use my B2 ADC for tracking; the B2 DAC is sitting idle. That is great to hear! Thanks for the feedback. I think with the monitoring and main signal its a great place to start. Plus can still use my BLA sparrow if I want or that AD10 as a DA later. |
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Post by jeromemason on Sept 20, 2018 11:03:14 GMT -6
I've heard it's very good. My Antelope Satori is the most pristine sounding rack gear I've ever heard. Honestly though if I were you, I'd look at the Pro-ject S2 for your DAC and then something like my Lavry AD-10 I'm selling in the classifieds I'll make you a good deal on it and you can push the hell out of that converter to jack those volumes up without it busting up. You can get a good +6db out of it while it still sounds very smooth, that's what Lavry's are famous for. With that setup you'd be well below the Pure 2's cost and I think you'd actually have a lot more bang for your buck. Thanks Jerome. I actually bought your BLA Red Sparrow a few years back. Was chuckling to myself as I eyed your AD10 as it looks super appealing. I still have the sparrow and like it. But want something new. How would you compare the two? And more importantly, what are you going to replace the AD10 with?? Hadn't thought about using the S2. That's not a bad idea. Wish it had XLR or 1/4'' outputs though. Unbalanced RCAs would impart some noise i think into the signal chain possibly. They pop up used for around 1500-1800 now too(the Pure2) and I think thats a great price. No man, the S2 doesn't have any noise at all.... I was worried about that when I finally bought it but no joke it's dead quiet. Well if you're running the AD-10 in clear mode that's what you get, but you're able to push and push it until it starts to bust a little, and that won't sound bad, but you just pull it back a little and usually I find I'm doing like +6-9db over -0- Then you can also use the DSP models Dan created to sound like transformers and in that mode you can actually push even further..... But the converter overall sounds really great. That Sparrow was a great step into this, now I'm stepping into something else but not until I unload this one. So, I don't want to make it sound like you're following me, but you could! Haha. In all seriousness it truly is a great AD. |
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Post by Blackdawg on Sept 20, 2018 11:52:10 GMT -6
Thanks Jerome. I actually bought your BLA Red Sparrow a few years back. Was chuckling to myself as I eyed your AD10 as it looks super appealing. I still have the sparrow and like it. But want something new. How would you compare the two? And more importantly, what are you going to replace the AD10 with?? Hadn't thought about using the S2. That's not a bad idea. Wish it had XLR or 1/4'' outputs though. Unbalanced RCAs would impart some noise i think into the signal chain possibly. They pop up used for around 1500-1800 now too(the Pure2) and I think thats a great price. No man, the S2 doesn't have any noise at all.... I was worried about that when I finally bought it but no joke it's dead quiet. Well if you're running the AD-10 in clear mode that's what you get, but you're able to push and push it until it starts to bust a little, and that won't sound bad, but you just pull it back a little and usually I find I'm doing like +6-9db over -0- Then you can also use the DSP models Dan created to sound like transformers and in that mode you can actually push even further..... But the converter overall sounds really great. That Sparrow was a great step into this, now I'm stepping into something else but not until I unload this one. So, I don't want to make it sound like you're following me, but you could! Haha. In all seriousness it truly is a great AD. The Larvy stuff is know to be killer. I was considering finding a Benchmark DAC too for a bit. Im not sure how I'd do my signal flow with the S2 in terms of my monitoring. |
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Post by nomatic on Sept 20, 2018 12:06:33 GMT -6
The Pure 2 is my mastering ADDA and has been great on a whole bunch of records...
The ability to monitor Usb and A to D is quite handy when comparing the analogue loop to the original mix..
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Post by jin167 on Sept 20, 2018 12:49:57 GMT -6
Been using it since day 1 of its launch. Borderline rubbish software but it is a great converter.
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Post by Blackdawg on Sept 20, 2018 12:59:47 GMT -6
The Pure 2 is my mastering ADDA and has been great on a whole bunch of records... The ability to monitor Usb and A to D is quite handy when comparing the analogue loop to the original mix.. Very cool. Is it easy to A/B that way? Been using it since day 1 of its launch. Borderline rubbish software but it is a great converter. Great to hear! Thanks! Software looks pretty minimally needed though really. So shouldn't be a huge deal. |
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Post by doom3crazy on Sept 22, 2018 20:41:39 GMT -6
I think it's ad/da is quite fantastic.
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I'll make you a good deal on it and you can push the hell out of that converter to jack those volumes up without it busting up. You can get a good +6db out of it while it still sounds very smooth, that's what Lavry's are famous for. With that setup you'd be well below the Pure 2's cost and I think you'd actually have a lot more bang for your buck. 
