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Post by svart on Sept 18, 2018 11:50:18 GMT -6
Since there seems to be a new love fest for MACs and either Logic or PT and either a UA or MOTU interface, lets discuss OTHER setups in this thread to keep some semblance of open minds.
I'll start..
Reaper PC with I5 and 16G of ram SSL Alphalink AX MADI SSL MX4 DSP PCI-E card Win7 pro
I've been running this setup for about 4 years now with only a single issue, which was my own fault of mixing incompatible voltage RAM which caused random issues for a short time until I realized what I had done. Since replacing the RAM, not a single issue and I use the machine almost daily. I did buy a high-end power supply this time and I'm a firm believer that a better supply is key for stability of the system.
Before this, I used:
PC with 1st gen P4 4G ram SSL Alphalink AX non-MADI Mixpander 5 DSP card
I used this setup for maybe 10 years with one a blown power supply and another time a HDD went bad. I successfully upgraded a Win2K install to WinXP on this machine with no issues.
Before this I had a mix of PC and MACs and even tried a Tascam MX2424 for a while until I couldn't take that buggy mess anymore.
On the old PC and MAC I used N-track studio and/or PT, and had nothing but trouble with MAC which had multiple motherboard replacements and I wasted huge amounts of money on it before deciding to stay PC as I almost never had issues with PC.
I tried using touch screens since I worked for a company that pioneered touch screen technology for commercial installations and had a few available to use.. That didn't turn out well at all. it completely slowed the process to a crawl. It looked cool, and artists loved the tech aspect of it, but I just couldn't do it long term.
I also tried completely ITB for a year or so in the middle of all this and it just ruined my creativity. Everything took so long to do I'd have to pull down through menus and click things and miss and then have to do things again and again that I found myself a bigger mixer and bought a bunch of patchbays to go back to hardware.
How about you guys and girls?
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Post by matt@IAA on Sept 18, 2018 12:31:51 GMT -6
I'm half and half.
Reaper PC with I5 and 8GB of ram Motu 1248 and 16A Win7
I also have Protools, which I used first, then went away from, now have again specifically for the cloud collaboration with a friend who lives in Germany. However, after learning Reaper I very much prefer it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2018 14:08:01 GMT -6
No Mac, No ProTools, No Logic, No UA and No MOTU here.
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Post by keymod on Sept 18, 2018 15:09:10 GMT -6
APB Dynasonics Pro Desk 832 Radar 24 with Nyquist Converters and Session Controller. ADK pc, Win7 Pro RME Raydat 4 x UAD Octo cards Cubase 9.5 Samplitude Harrison Mixbus 32c
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Post by popmann on Sept 18, 2018 18:14:03 GMT -6
Well, I just did a year and half in Logic/MacbookTown...and when I got beyond songwriting demos, ie, where I get picky about timing...(real time as I play and record the audio) piano VI performance...then Cuabse 9.5 crashing during it's 30 demo whilst trying to use it's Hermode Tuning for string arrangements I was doing...it just wasn't cutting it.
I missed a real desktop. One where there's enough ports to not have a desk full of hubs and dongles...so, I just built a new Win10 PC...using the same license, cool enough...I put in the key for my old Win7...and Win10 Pro activated...which it should...but, I was pretty sure I was going to have to talk to a human to explain how I was retiring the dying one and claiming my upgrade for this new hardware that can't run 7.
Anyway...screams. 970evo storage...including a dedicated heatsinked 1tb one for VI libraries...which Keyscape is the only thing that isn't loaded by the time I can get my hands down to the piano keyboard.
I'll continue to use the Logic/laptop for the autotempo mapping drummer when I have a new song idea. I was going to install OSX on the desktop for it, but without being able to share the file system, it's actually EASIER to have it be it's own little thing, ONE midi cable connecting them-- and just have it play the drum sampler in Mixbus (or Cubase6) on the PC, which is where it would end up anyway. Unplug laptop...buh bye.
So...anyhoo...since I have CPU to spare, I've been using Mixbus32c for everything....or trying. It's challenging. So many little things just...not there. It does sound good though, which I guess, end of the day is more important to me.
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Post by M57 on Sept 18, 2018 19:04:48 GMT -6
Mac/Logic/Motu.. I have no business posting on this thread.
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Post by svart on Sept 18, 2018 20:41:57 GMT -6
Mac/Logic/Motu.. I have no business posting on this thread. I think I have some bad news for you.. (You just posted in this thread)
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2018 21:20:54 GMT -6
I've still got a machine for Samplitude hanging about, it doesn't matter what you use though it's the end result that matters.
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Post by yotonic on Sept 18, 2018 21:28:10 GMT -6
Commodore 64 running GoatTracker
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Post by spindrift on Sept 18, 2018 22:47:35 GMT -6
RADAR Studio Ultra-Nyquists, Win8.1 in Workstation mode. But I’m getting killed on CPU when mixing PT native (Acustica plugs etc). I had an old MacPro 4,1 laying around that I thought I could only upgrade to 10.9. After a little research this week, it turns out I can: —flash it to become a MacPro 5,1, Install High Sierra 10.13 —an airport card for IOS handoff etc, —upgrade the processors to 2x 6 core 3.46Ghz Xeons (12 cores total) —upgrade the RAM ( I chose 6x 8GB DIMMs for 48GB@1333Mhz) —load it up with two 1TB SSDs. For under $1000 I transformed this dust collector into something that matches or bests the current trash can MacPros. (I haven’t benchtested it yet but it is a WIDE and FAST powerhouse). I’ll have a baller Mac PT mix-rig which I can either use AES back to the RADAR converters, or If I want to incorporate the new UA interfaces and use some UAD2 plug love, go that route (or just an Octo pci-e card if I want to continue with RADAR converters via AES). create.pro/blog/3-46ghz-12-core-mac-pro-cpu-upgrade-benchmarked-pro-tools-expert-try-out-a-2-x-intel-xeon-x5690-mac-pro-system/
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Post by ericn on Sept 19, 2018 6:33:24 GMT -6
Kind of use the MBP i7 for editing with Audient interface for some small stuff with PT. Otherwise house of RADAR V!!
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Post by avgatzeblouz on Sept 19, 2018 8:08:53 GMT -6
My own build with i7 6800k, 32 Gb of RAM, Samplitude Pro X3/Sequoia 14, and RME Multiface II. No issue, no complaint. I ditched protools 3 years ago, and never looked back.
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Post by swurveman on Sept 19, 2018 8:40:57 GMT -6
Cubase 8 and Pro Tools 10 PC with Intel Core i7 CPU, 950 @ 3.07 GHz, 16 GB RAM, , ATI RADEON 5450 Video Card 1GB - Dual DVI, 750GB SATA II 3.0Gb/s 64mb cache Hard Drive (OS), 2 x 1TB SATA II 3.0Gb/s 64mb cache Hard Drive (Audio and Media Drives), Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R LGA1366 socket motherboard for Intel® Core™ i7 processor family. (2) Lynx Aurora 16's linked (2) RME AES-32 PCIE card Win 10 pro
The PC was custom built by Steve Lamm from Nashville. The Aurora 16/RME configuration was his recommendation. No problems for 7 years.
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Post by Bender on Sept 19, 2018 10:33:35 GMT -6
Cubase 9.5 Pro PC with Intel I5 CPU @3.20Ghz 16gb Ram Windows 10 Pro 1Tb HDD for all the goods OS on 525 GB HDD Rme Fireface 802 and it's ROCK SOLID!!
Being that I have my computer in the tracking room, which is also my mixing room, I've been seriously considering upgrading the HDD's to SSD's to cut back on the noise, but it's a pricey proposition considering everyhing's working so well as is.
H8 Brotools, always have always will. Not missing a thing...
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Post by christopher on Sept 19, 2018 11:32:42 GMT -6
Reaper on Macbook and PC, stock plugins 99% so I can go MacOS <> Win10 fast. Mainly reaEQ, reaVerb (w/impulses), reaDelay, reaComp, JS stereo field, RBJ 1073, & sometimes JS drumtrigger/ reaSynth reaSamplomatic5000 for blending samples. Interface... RME Fireface 400 (w/dongle for Mac thunderbolt) I'm replacing output caps with much bigger ones (originals were tiny), actually sounds a little more musical now; its just the chassis is too small to put it back together. I was using an Alesis HD24XR for extra channels, now I'm using a Scarlett 18i20 until I can afford a major upgrade. The HD24XR are great though, just getting old now. My PC... Win10 64 Ryzen 1600 ... uses AM4 socket, upgradable to any AMD chip so I'll probably get a big CPU when 7nm comes out. 16Gb Ram 3200 NVME drive Corsair semi fanless PSU 4K samsung monitor. QUIET Before that I had an ancient AMD XP system that just wouldn't die.
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Post by adamjbrass on Sept 19, 2018 13:41:06 GMT -6
PC laptop i7 quad, 16GB ram, two 250GB SSD, with Pyramix 11 and a Merging Hapi
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Post by brucerothwell on Sept 19, 2018 14:30:08 GMT -6
2010 Mac Pro 48gb ram Dual 6-core processors Metric Halo ULN-2 interface Studio One 4 Mixbus 4 Pro Tools 12
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Post by bigbone on Sept 19, 2018 14:31:19 GMT -6
Oops wrong tread. !!!!
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Post by matt@IAA on Sept 19, 2018 19:44:48 GMT -6
Reaper on Macbook and PC, stock plugins 99% so I can go MacOS <> Win10 fast. Mainly reaEQ, reaVerb (w/impulses), reaDelay, reaComp, JS stereo field, RBJ 1073, & sometimes JS drumtrigger/ reaSynth reaSamplomatic5000 for blending samples. Interface... RME Fireface 400 (w/dongle for Mac thunderbolt) I'm replacing output caps with much bigger ones (originals were tiny), actually sounds a little more musical now; its just the chassis is too small to put it back together. I was using an Alesis HD24XR for extra channels, now I'm using a Scarlett 18i20 until I can afford a major upgrade. The HD24XR are great though, just getting old now. My PC... Win10 64 Ryzen 1600 ... uses AM4 socket, upgradable to any AMD chip so I'll probably get a big CPU when 7nm comes out. 16Gb Ram 3200 NVME drive Corsair semi fanless PSU 4K samsung monitor. QUIET Before that I had an ancient AMD XP system that just wouldn't die. I don’t know why but I’ve never been able to get much use out of reaverb, comp and delay. What’s your secret?!
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Post by christopher on Sept 19, 2018 20:17:42 GMT -6
ReaComp takes some practice, mainly figuring out how to set the knee size and the pre compress settings. I rarely ever leave either set to default. I almost always set to the knee to something medium like 4 or to maxed out.. unless I want hard digtal then 0 knee is handy. Either I like a medium attack 50ms-150ms.. or fast attack 10-15ms with precomp set just a little higher than whatever I set attack. That way it can grab the transient before it happens. I also use it in side chain quite a bit, sometimes do weird stuff like mult a track, EQ it and send the mult into the original's side chain to bite down on say a reverb about 100ms after the attack. Or bite it on the first 100ms, then release it so it can blossom. Weird stuff like that. ReaVerb I had to watch a YouTube video to learn about the time stretch features. Mostly I just load impulses that I found from one of those freeware VST sites, or maybe Reaper forum? Someone has made an IR for almost everything, so that can be fun. , I like the plate IR's. Delay I do wish it had tap tempo features and better tone to it, but it does have lo/hi pass filters. I use those every ime I use it. Also play with feedback and multi taps. i hope that helps! I try to use analog stuff for coloring things up, and I print that usually so it makes those boring clean plugins maybe a little more handy
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Post by mcirish on Sept 20, 2018 10:32:38 GMT -6
Nuendo 8.2 PC Windows 10, 32GB memory, 8 core i7, SSD drives for OS and audio, standard for storage Lynx Aurora 16 ThunderBolt
I've thought about Pro Tools but I'm not sure what the point would be except to try something new. I'm definitely a PC guy. I've done a lot of work on Macs. I just don't like how they function.
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Post by Omicron9 on Sept 21, 2018 8:07:15 GMT -6
Currently on Logic/Mac, but migrating over to Reaper/Windows. I've had it with Macs and Apple.
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Post by svart on Sept 21, 2018 8:15:33 GMT -6
Currently on Logic/Mac, but migrating over to Reaper/Windows. I've had it with Macs and Apple. Welcome to the new you!
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Post by Omicron9 on Sept 21, 2018 9:51:10 GMT -6
Currently on Logic/Mac, but migrating over to Reaper/Windows. I've had it with Macs and Apple. Welcome to the new you! Ha! Indeed. I have no complaints with Logic and like it quite a bit. But the more I use/learn Reaper, the more excited I am to make the switch. This isn't a which-is-the-Superior-OS-smackdown kind of thing, as I think both Windows10 and MacOS are equal in quality (my opinion). I'm a Windows guy for over 20 years, and trying to use MacOS is like water torture; it's slowly driving me around the bend. Getting a DAW up and running in Windows10 is like springtime. Birds are singing. Flowers are blooming. Food tastes better... Again, the OS choice is just personal preference, not meant as a slam on Mac. -09
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2018 10:28:19 GMT -6
Just saying this has to be the weirdest and somewhat illogical thread I've come across here, especially with phrases like "lets keep a semblance of open minds".. So we're close minded because a select handful of people like the same things? I've been on Windows for the last decade and a half (I love W7 / W8 as well), I was one of THE first adopters of the new MOTU line before that using <insert interface here>..
I even had the Gen1 UA PCI-E DSP accelerators (for PC) before I ever even joined a forum. I can't stand Windows 10 ever since they've turned it into a telemetry marketing OS with forced updates.. I use W10 at work and I've tried it for a DAW machines, it's sometimes fine until it goes wrong.. You might disagree and it might work fine for you which is good, still there's hundreds of pages on GS about W10 with a LOT of people having sporadic issues (mainly due to updates)..
IF the point of this thread is to be some sort of "special snowflake" then go use Linux, it's free / fast / stable as hell and it's getting a lot more support from the industry nowadays.. The new Metric Halo 3D card supports Linux, Bitwig / Reaper runs well and there's an ever growing amount of VSTI's.. Whilst audio API's like ALSA can be a little messy, it can still pretty much do what core audio does.
Again, end of the day like all audio equipment it doesn't matter what you use.. It's all preference like anything else, like chocolate vs. broccoli..
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