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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2018 14:55:59 GMT -6
I've had a bit of a love hate relationship with PT Native over the years, I wouldn't mind getting out of the subs so I'm looking about again. I do quite a lot of midi stuff with Kontakt but for main part my songs are rock / acoustic and rarely but sometimes metal. I have Samp as well but I've had issues with the audio engine and midi editing functions. I tried Studio one, not only was it heavier than PT it seemed like they were re-inventing the wheel for some reason?
I'm quite interested in FL Studio although I've heard the audio editing side can be a PITA, there's Reaper of course and finally Mixcraft has peaked my interested. What do ya think?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2018 14:57:11 GMT -6
I'd never used a "real DAW" extensively until a couple of months ago, Reaper, no looking back.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2018 15:04:50 GMT -6
I'd never used a "real DAW" extensively until a couple of months ago, Reaper, no looking back.
I was reading up and from what I can tell the one place Reaper suffers is midi.! Although I could just re-wire something like FL Studio to Reaper??!
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Post by Blackdawg on Aug 2, 2018 15:29:06 GMT -6
If you do a lot of midi Id look at Cubase or Logic. Lots of composers prefer those two DAWs for their MIDI functions.
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Post by jazznoise on Aug 2, 2018 15:33:49 GMT -6
The midi tools are good, the issues are with tracking and editing midi and the default midi inputs. But the editing is fine and the quantization and time stretching tools are all good.
Ableton is better on MIDI, but honestly for tracking Reaper is so good you'll put up with it.
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Post by kcatthedog on Aug 2, 2018 15:41:53 GMT -6
I went from pt to logic about 2 years ago, flirted with studio one but settled on logic. It seems to do everything and is very well supported.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2018 15:45:42 GMT -6
I went from pt to logic about 2 years ago, flirted with studio one but settled on logic. It seems to do everything and is very well supported.
I'm on PC Matt..
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Post by kcatthedog on Aug 2, 2018 15:47:42 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2018 15:54:57 GMT -6
Ditch that windoze shite !! Lol.! I tell you something price vs. performance I've got an 8 core 5960X OC'd to 4.0GHZ and I can run an MOTU @ 16 samples w/ plugs, plus the PC cost lest than $4MIL  ..
It's defo Mixcraft vs. Reaper, they are both so lightweight and cheap LOL!. But Mixcraft has a full score editor like PT's Sibelius, before they wrecked it in the latest versions I used guitar pro 5 to write all my drum tracks (because it took hours instead of days).. Hmmm, anyway if one things clear I'll be dropping PT like a hot rock me things..
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Post by svart on Aug 2, 2018 15:55:02 GMT -6
Reaper. I don't know what kind of midi stuff you're doing but I run a keyboard into reaper for VI stuff using midi.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2018 15:56:31 GMT -6
Reaper. I don't know what kind of midi stuff you're doing but I run a keyboard into reaper for VI stuff using midi.
Heavy Diamond, because it's harder than metal..
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Post by svart on Aug 2, 2018 16:12:14 GMT -6
Reaper. I don't know what kind of midi stuff you're doing but I run a keyboard into reaper for VI stuff using midi.
Heavy Diamond, because it's harder than metal..
So drum triggers? Hell, I just run the triggers right into my preamps. They sound terrible like that, but they're super easy to do replacement in reaper like that. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2018 16:26:54 GMT -6
Heavy Diamond, because it's harder than metal..
So drum triggers? Hell, I just run the triggers right into my preamps. They sound terrible like that, but they're super easy to do replacement in reaper like that.
I do all sorts from orchestral VI's to pop music, drum triggers, drum sample replacement.. A lot of it's blended with acoustic music (or heavily distorted guitars).. Imagine if Dimmu Borgir was a pop rock band, yeah that kinda thing.
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Post by rowmat on Aug 2, 2018 16:32:02 GMT -6
Reaper here also but we don't really do much midi.
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Post by popmann on Aug 2, 2018 16:46:18 GMT -6
Orchestral midi=Cubase. Read my recent post on Hermode tuning. For strings and horns it has left eveything in.....the.....dust. Nothing competes if you care about your sections intonating properly.
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Post by Mister Chase on Aug 2, 2018 16:50:06 GMT -6
Orchestral midi=Cubase. Read my recent post on Hermode tuning. For strings and horns it has left eveything in.....the.....dust. Nothing competes if you care about your sections intonating properly. From what I've seen, Cubase seems to be the midi boss for sure. |
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Post by johneppstein on Aug 2, 2018 16:51:12 GMT -6
Ditch that windoze shite !! Seriously? And put up with Apple breaking things every time they "update" their OS, which is far too frequent and never ending?
Naw, once you wait out the initial debugging period, Windoze is stable and remains stable for years. Unlike Mac.
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Post by Mister Chase on Aug 2, 2018 16:57:16 GMT -6
Ditch that windoze shite !! Seriously? And put up with Apple breaking things every time they "update" their OS, which is far too frequent and never ending?
Naw, once you wait out the initial debugging period, Windoze is stable and remains stable for years. Unlike Mac.
If we are talking windows 10, they have plenty of forced updates that brick computers. I don't know much about Mac's but my time working on them theyve seemed to run daws a bit better. They both have their issues. I use pc because I can build a monster for thousands less than a mac. |
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Post by matt on Aug 2, 2018 17:09:23 GMT -6
I've had a bit of a love hate relationship with PT Native over the years, Mac user here. I went through this recently, and decided to stay with PT Native, and may move to Ultimate some day if I need the extra I/O beyond 32. I just can't see moving to another DAW- heck, I'm just getting proficient at PT. |
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Post by woofhead on Aug 2, 2018 17:10:10 GMT -6
I love cubase its very intuitive and feels "musical" to me and I have that same love hate feeling about pt native but need it for mixing or exporting external sessions.Ive always been pc and it runs just great and has for years.Theres also a pc version of digital performer now in case youre checking out all the possibilities Mike
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2018 17:20:58 GMT -6
Orchestral midi=Cubase. Read my recent post on Hermode tuning. For strings and horns it has left eveything in.....the.....dust. Nothing competes if you care about your sections intonating properly.
From what I'm reading the NI / Kontakt stuff doesn't work properly with Cubase's micro tuning, although that being said it's not that difficult to implement it with Kontakt yourself via DPT Scripts.
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Post by kcatthedog on Aug 2, 2018 17:52:26 GMT -6
I personally have had a really good experience with my Apple Macs and Logic. When I was at ua forum there seemed to be a never ending series of complaints with Windows users and bizarre things they took for granted to get their computer functioning again: no thx ! |
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Post by indiehouse on Aug 2, 2018 17:57:30 GMT -6
I’m on PT 12.4, and will not be going further. I refuse to pay their extortion..err..I mean subscription fees. I’m going to Cubase the day PT no longer works.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2018 18:03:58 GMT -6
I’m on PT 12.4, and will not be going further. I refuse to pay their extortion..err..I mean subscription fees. I’m going to Cubase the day PT no longer works.
Yeah a lot of my earlier tracks came out like a wash of phase due to crap ADC, when I had PT HD it was expensive yet awesome I mean I couldn't fault it.. Now with native becoming so powerful I mean??! Had too many bugs native PT to consider keeping it (midi controllers pausing, interfaces crashing it), I don't have a client studio anymore so it's not like I need it for sessions or anything.
As a DAW I don't love Samp but I've never once had ANY issues with it oh and it doesn't cost the earth..
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Post by ericn on Aug 2, 2018 18:36:23 GMT -6
I've had a bit of a love hate relationship with PT Native over the years, I wouldn't mind getting out of the subs so I'm looking about again. I do quite a lot of midi stuff with Kontakt but for main part my songs are rock / acoustic and rarely but sometimes metal. I have Samp as well but I've had issues with the audio engine and midi editing functions. I tried Studio one, not only was it heavier than PT it seemed like they were re-inventing the wheel for some reason?
I'm quite interested in FL Studio although I've heard the audio editing side can be a PITA, there's Reaper of course and finally Mixcraft has peaked my interested. What do ya think?
I think the first paragraph sums up 99.9999999% of non HD/TDM users !😎 Here it’s track in RADAR V edit in PT but might give logic another shot. |
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