|
Post by nick8801 on Jul 23, 2018 20:28:07 GMT -6
www.nhthifi.com/products/10654-superzero-2-1-our-amazing-mini-monitorJust ordered a pair of these. Anyone ever mess with them in the studio? They are really popular in the hifi/home theater market, but they click all the boxes for a secondary pair in the studio. Sealed box, small footprint, accurate etc....and they were only 150 for a pair on Amazon! I'm going to use my Samson Servo 120 that is currently powering my Reftones, but they both use banana plugs, so I can just swap the cables if I want to. They also make one called the Superone www.nhthifi.com/products/10658-nht-superone-2-1#specs which is a bigger 6.5 inch woofer, sealed as well, but goes down to 56 Hz, whereas the zeros only go down to 85 Hz. Anyways....kinda hoping they will be a poor man's Amphion. We shall see.....
|
|
|
Post by Tbone81 on Jul 23, 2018 20:54:17 GMT -6
I think Joe Baressi uses those as a second pair of speakers. Also, been interested but never heard them. Let us know how they turn out.
|
|
|
Post by jeremygillespie on Jul 23, 2018 21:09:57 GMT -6
I seriously just threw a pair of NHT’s in the dumpster a week ago. They had an angled front cabinet and didn’t sound great or useful for anything I used them for. Couldn’t give em away so had to dump em.
Now I’m second guessing that rash decision haha
|
|
ericn
Temp
Balance Engineer
Posts: 15,013
Member is Online
|
Post by ericn on Jul 23, 2018 22:07:31 GMT -6
One of those companies that tried to break into the pro market but just didn’t put much effort into it. Typical mid line consumer stuff,nothing that makes you go wow, also never really impressed with their choice of drivers.
|
|
|
Post by nick8801 on Jul 24, 2018 1:41:28 GMT -6
Yeah I’ve been sorta doing some reading about the brand history. The super series seems to be the ones everyone sings praises for. I did see a thread on the other site about their studio monitors. There were a few guys using them at some point who really liked them. So for the price I couldn’t pass....
|
|
|
Post by kcatthedog on Jul 24, 2018 5:48:50 GMT -6
Well hold on there a minute I have seen NHT monitors using SEAS drivers etc., not too shabby. I think it may depend on the specific product whether it has good bones or not ?
|
|
|
Post by brenta on Jul 24, 2018 7:22:00 GMT -6
I have pairs of SuperOnes and SuperZeros here. Mine are not the newer .1 versions that you are getting.
The guy who designed the original version is a well respected speaker designer. They were considered one of the best bang for the buck bookshelf speakers for a long time. NHT did make powered versions of these same exact speakers that they unsuccessfully marketed to the pro audio market for awhile. The powered superzero was called the m00 and the powered SuperOne was called the A20 I believe.
Joe Barresi does indeed have a few different NHT’s in his studio. Sylvia Massey swears by an NHT model I forget the name of that has two woofers and is no longer made.
The SuperOnes are kind of like a better sounding NS-10. They have a little more low end extension and a prettier high end than the NS-10. They have a little bit of a bump between 1k and 2k that has made the the translation of vocal levels difficult for me at times. They also have a slight bump somewhere around 200hz which give it a slightly “throaty” sound.
The SuperZeros are voiced similarly but have no bass. They would be good for referencing how songs will translate to a lot of Bluetooth speakers.
I replaced my SuperOnes with an Avantone Mixcube as a third reference, but I find the Avantone pretty much useless (gasp!) so I think I’m going to hook back up the SuperOnes or SuperZeros as that third reference again. The sealed design definitely helps with the bass, as ports can play tricks on you IME.
|
|
|
Post by matt@IAA on Jul 24, 2018 7:33:13 GMT -6
Yeah Sylvia uses those old NHTs but every engineer I know who has mixed at that console with them complains bitterly about them - ha!
|
|
ericn
Temp
Balance Engineer
Posts: 15,013
Member is Online
|
Post by ericn on Jul 24, 2018 8:27:19 GMT -6
Well hold on there a minute I have seen NHT monitors using SEAS drivers etc., not too shabby. I think it may depend on the specific product whether it has good bones or not ? Yeah but some of Sea’s stuff just isn’t that impressive, maybe I’m jaded from having made so many friends in the speaker biz😳 I just don’t know anybody who has had a jaw dropping experience. When they first came out it seamed like they were trying to be more about the design’s look rather than the design of the speaker,although they always had an acoustic justification for their design. I thought they had bragged about one of their original designers pedigree but I can’t find anything referencing it or remember who they were bragging about. Their pro stuff was all about active with a separate dedicated amp box, right choice for the Sonics, keeping a heat source away from the drivers, but a very hard sell especially back when I was selling Genelecs and Questeds with Porta- Brace cases to freelancers. They came in and made a big deal about how their midrange blew away Event 20/20’s well anything could do that!
|
|
|
Post by nick8801 on Jul 25, 2018 0:43:25 GMT -6
I have pairs of SuperOnes and SuperZeros here. Mine are not the newer .1 versions that you are getting. The guy who designed the original version is a well respected speaker designer. They were considered one of the best bang for the buck bookshelf speakers for a long time. NHT did make powered versions of these same exact speakers that they unsuccessfully marketed to the pro audio market for awhile. The powered superzero was called the m00 and the powered SuperOne was called the A20 I believe. Joe Barresi does indeed have a few different NHT’s in his studio. Sylvia Massey swears by an NHT model I forget the name of that has two woofers and is no longer made. The SuperOnes are kind of like a better sounding NS-10. They have a little more low end extension and a prettier high end than the NS-10. They have a little bit of a bump between 1k and 2k that has made the the translation of vocal levels difficult for me at times. They also have a slight bump somewhere around 200hz which give it a slightly “throaty” sound. The SuperZeros are voiced similarly but have no bass. They would be good for referencing how songs will translate to a lot of Bluetooth speakers. I replaced my SuperOnes with an Avantone Mixcube as a third reference, but I find the Avantone pretty much useless (gasp!) so I think I’m going to hook back up the SuperOnes or SuperZeros as that third reference again. The sealed design definitely helps with the bass, as ports can play tricks on you IME. Fantastic info. Thank you so much for posting. Balancing mixes for smaller speakers is definitely my goal with these. I do have a Reftone set, which is another mix cube brand, and while they do help me keep the mids in check, they really do nothing for the ends of the frequency spectrum. My “mains” are a pair of Eve sc307’s. They’re big, loud and proud. Super fun to work on and vibe with when I’m creating, but they don’t give me enough to nail down the last 10% or so of a mix. I’m hoping a small, basic, closed box set will fill in those gaps for me. I kinda hate switching speakers when I’m working, but I’ve yet to find a set that covers all grounds well. The NHT’s should be here Thursday. I’ll let y’all know what I think.
|
|
|
Post by nick8801 on Jul 26, 2018 15:09:30 GMT -6
I'm gonna try my best to contain my excitement since I just plugged these in a few hours ago but....DAMN! Wow. The detail is crazy good. I could hear breathing, distortions, picks hitting acoustics, reverbs, buzzes, etc...better than I have on any other system I have ever used. Yes, the bass is light....BUT...it's audible where it fits in the mix, so it's pretty easy to adjust sub frequencies with some phones or larger monitors. I was able to get a bass track to sit that's been bugging me for the past week. Very easy to connect with the music. For 150 bucks this is a no brainer. I've heard they are amp sensitive and I agree. They sound good with my Samson, but I am pushing it a bit to get the speakers to really open up and speak. They could also probably use a little break in to soften up, but definitely power hungry little guys. Anyway...I have a mix to do this evening and I'm going to try to use these for 90% of the work. I have high hopes for these.
|
|