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Post by mrholmes on May 30, 2018 2:09:00 GMT -6
Latley I find to many options with any plug-in is a real bad idea.
For example: Why adding endless specials to a G style compressor, or adding a transfromer simulation on the output - which I cant switch off??
To many options slow down my work process.
The thing should help me to make a qucik and dirty decission, and that is what hardware in most of the cases gives me.
Limited options = qucik decissions.
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Post by iamasound on May 30, 2018 2:44:36 GMT -6
Better...Improved...Version 2.0...Faster...Easier...Workflow...etc
Kind of like selling dish soap, marketing departments need to keep their jobs. In the absence of a marketing department a dev might feel that they need to keep up with the competition and the flashy newest thing. I'm just musing. The young also seem to enjoy all in one gadgets.
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Post by drbill on May 30, 2018 10:17:06 GMT -6
Agreed. AFAIC, you can also get rid of "too many options" from Hardware as well. There are a couple new boxes that look cool, but have 40+ knobs and switches. No thanks. I long for the 2a, 3a days when there were minimal controls and it was easy and quick to get the sound right. And RIGHT it was. If designed correctly, simplicity can go hand in hand with harmonic complexity.
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Post by Tbone81 on May 30, 2018 10:55:29 GMT -6
Agreed. AFAIC, you can also get rid of "too many options" from Hardware as well. There are a couple new boxes that look cool, but have 40+ knobs and switches. No thanks. I long for the 2a, 3a days when there were minimal controls and it was easy and quick to get the sound right. And RIGHT it was. If designed correctly, simplicity can go hand in hand with harmonic complexity. That's why I got rid of my germanium compressors. They had a great tone but I'd get lost turning knobs instead of making music. Now I'll only buy something if it's stupid simple, like "turn this knob till it sounds good" simple. |
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Post by Tbone81 on May 30, 2018 10:59:33 GMT -6
Latley I find to many options with any plug-in is a real bad idea.
For example: Why adding endless specials to a G style compressor, or adding a transfromer simulation on the output - which I cant switch off??
To many options slow down my work process.
The thing should help me to make a qucik and dirty decission, and that is what hardware in most of the cases gives me.
Limited options = qucik decissions.
I totally feel the same. Just got the seventh heaven reverb two days ago and I'm really enjoying how simple it is. Every preset sounds good and I really don't have to tweak anything. It's a nice change from most reverbs I own. |
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Post by mrholmes on May 30, 2018 11:39:22 GMT -6
Latley I find to many options with any plug-in is a real bad idea.
For example: Why adding endless specials to a G style compressor, or adding a transfromer simulation on the output - which I cant switch off??
To many options slow down my work process.
The thing should help me to make a qucik and dirty decission, and that is what hardware in most of the cases gives me.
Limited options = qucik decissions.
I totally feel the same. Just got the seventh heaven reverb two days ago and I'm really enjoying how simple it is. Every preset sounds good and I really don't have to tweak anything. It's a nice change from most reverbs I own.
A good example for a fast forward idea as user interface is the logic x stock compressors. The compression behavior is very well designed often reminds on some of my hardware tools.
To my surpriseone one thing is optional. You can change the Knee and taht makes a diffrence.
This week it is the most impressive finding that the Knee seems to play a big role to match it to the hardwares sound.
I overlooked the stock compressor of Logic for a decade..
Special the Focusrite simulation ads minimal artifact and sounds clean and 3D. They must have done something right at Apple.
Whats my point. Options are alright, if they follow the sound.
If there is no big deal gong on... please keep it simple and stupid.
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Post by johneppstein on May 30, 2018 12:39:19 GMT -6
But, like, well, y'know, OPTIONS, man.... More MORE it's like, well, CREATIVITY! You can do, like, more THINGS, things that nobody else DOES, things like, y'know, like nobody ever WANTED to do, it's like NEW and CREATIVE, you can make a Youtube and, well, like, y'know what I mean?
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Post by Guitar on May 30, 2018 17:23:31 GMT -6
I was watching some pedal guy talk about modern pedals, said, "Yeah, well, it's got a few extra switches all over it to do whatever little thing... Seems to be a common thing these days."
I try to avoid extraneous controls when I design or build my own effects.
If something is there, it better have a good reason!
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Post by M57 on May 30, 2018 17:41:21 GMT -6
I like knobs if I understand what they do ..and they make things sound better when you turn them. I don't care how many there are.
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Post by Guitar on May 30, 2018 17:43:58 GMT -6
I like knobs if I understand what they do ..and they make things sound better when you turn them. I don't care how many there are. Yeah, exactly. I don't like knobs that do almost nothing audible or useful. Or knobs/switches that should have been in one position the whole time. |
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Post by popmann on May 30, 2018 17:49:29 GMT -6
Because there's no options in the Logic Compressor? Other than ten IO/control models, with a side Chain detector filter/EQ, a limiter/clipper stage, a knee adjustment, several stages of makeup gain....  I appreciate how they only have the "one" plug in with 500 options, though. I find that more useful because if it needs to be compressed, I insert that....and something in it will work. |
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Post by mrholmes on May 31, 2018 9:46:24 GMT -6
Because there's no options in the Logic Compressor? Other than ten IO/control models, with a side Chain detector filter/EQ, a limiter/clipper stage, a knee adjustment, several stages of makeup gain.... I appreciate how they only have the "one" plug in with 500 options, though. I find that more useful because if it needs to be compressed, I insert that....and something in it will work. Yes true there are options but the layout makes sense to me. And they are not useless options and to be fair you can switch the SC control panel away. So I get more concrete please give me a good logical overview. Everything that makes me thinking kills the flow. |
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Post by Quint on May 31, 2018 21:12:17 GMT -6
Agreed. AFAIC, you can also get rid of "too many options" from Hardware as well. There are a couple new boxes that look cool, but have 40+ knobs and switches. No thanks. I long for the 2a, 3a days when there were minimal controls and it was easy and quick to get the sound right. And RIGHT it was. If designed correctly, simplicity can go hand in hand with harmonic complexity. Here, here. I could be happy with just a La3a. Simple. Effective. Done. |
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