ericn
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Post by ericn on Mar 21, 2018 7:54:50 GMT -6
john, HPF is a crtical move for lots of people. myself included. Maybe you don't have a ton of low end junk to deal with, in the music you work with..but Ive noticed how helpful it is MOST of the time. The old guys didnt have plug ins that let you tweak the slope and center point Yeah as tracking as gone from rooms that were designed to handle real lowend and isolate the outside world HPF has become more and more an essential tool, put even in the grand old days those filters on an SSL were part of the magic. Part of using a variable HPF is using your ear and not the numbers to dial it in to do the least amount of harm, the guys who thought it out always had more Lowend problems. |
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Post by johneppstein on Mar 21, 2018 11:52:37 GMT -6
john, HPF is a crtical move for lots of people. myself included. Maybe you don't have a ton of low end junk to deal with, in the music you work with..but Ive noticed how helpful it is MOST of the time. The old guys didnt have plug ins that let you tweak the slope and center point Well, my console EQs have high and low shelving filters, which are intended for EQ work. And some consoles do have variable frequency HPFs. Mine doesn't, but like I said, it's got variable frequency LF shelving. And if there's real "low end junk", well, that is pretty much what the HPF is for, I guess - which makes me ask why there's so much "low end junk" around? Maybe if you're doing a lot of "modern metal" where people down tune absurdly low, but that begs the question of why they're tuning so damn low if it's only gonna be chopped out with an HPF anyway? Seems like pissing into the wind to me. (That does at least partially answer my oft unspoken question of how come these guys manage to not sound particularly "heavy" to me despite the silly low tunings and 5 string basses and 7 string guitars.  ) But you are right, I gave up on metal about the time it started all sounding the same to me, at the start of the cookie monster era. |
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Post by adamjbrass on Mar 21, 2018 18:25:42 GMT -6
Its all relative,
I don't always record the stuff I mix, so you can't always record perfect sounds, with no low end build up. Its based upon your production style,
And in addition, most people record flat signals, less commitment to the space inside their mix during tracking. While I encourage making choices, this one is pretty easy, thanks to Digital Audio Plug ins. Ill use them over any console. Though, that is useful still, its nowhere mesr sweeping around with Fab Filter. But thats Just me. So, you end up having to decide later how much sonic real estate the instrument needs. A lot of times, there are many arrangment issues as a result.
And, whenever I hear energy robbing headroom within the overall mix spectrum, i simply am forced to omit much of the egregious low end, where it is bluntly unnecessary..in order to get the proper shape of sound to translate. In many different styles of music, cleaning up the bottom end to fit within the range of audbility is where I spend most of the time when mixing. Helps kill masking. But yea, I tend to want to capture as much as possible (within reason) and decide later in a mixing setup.
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