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Post by mulmany on Mar 14, 2018 21:31:12 GMT -6
Found a killer deal on two HD24's with the XR upgrade boards.
My 40 channel Delta and these I am set for no computer tracking.
Why shouldn't I do it?
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Post by keymod on Mar 15, 2018 2:59:52 GMT -6
It's said that, with the upgrade boards, these are hard to beat. You can always use other convertors via ADAT. I just pulled my original unit out of storage in preparation for some transfers. Hadn't been powered up in a couple of years but fired right up without a hiccup and ran like it is supposed to. You will learn to love the workflow. Try to find a BRC to pair with them and start making music.
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Post by nnajar on Mar 15, 2018 4:24:21 GMT -6
There can be really good deals on radar these days, I’d do that if I wanted a computer less setup.....
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Post by gouge on Mar 15, 2018 5:30:30 GMT -6
the hd24 is a computer isn't it?
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Post by svart on Mar 15, 2018 6:48:14 GMT -6
the hd24 is a computer isn't it? They all are. |
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Post by svart on Mar 15, 2018 6:50:08 GMT -6
I tried doing the computer-less thing for years with a Tascam MX2424.
Besides the thing being so buggy, I just couldn't work fast with it. You'd think you could, but you can't.
Good luck though.
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Post by gouge on Mar 15, 2018 7:08:10 GMT -6
the hd24 is a computer isn't it? They all are. yeah that was my point. Just use a computer and turn off the monitors. Same thing and much more reliable. |
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Post by mulmany on Mar 15, 2018 7:13:02 GMT -6
I tried doing the computer-less thing for years with a Tascam MX2424. Besides the thing being so buggy, I just couldn't work fast with it. You'd think you could, but you can't. Good luck though. We had them at school when they first came out. Everyone of them were buggy. They stopped using them. |
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Post by EmRR on Mar 15, 2018 7:41:15 GMT -6
I found the HD24XR fairly buggy and frustrating to drive. Drive caddy's would not mount reliably at times, clones from one to another would be incomplete, copy/paste actions have very little RAM available, so a big multi-track copy/paste might be too large, frequently. Transfers to/from computer were buggy, and rarely worked correctly at higher rates. Using it solely as I/O to a computer was also frustrating, with slow reconfiguration for different tasks. Never worked right with a BRC, despite claims that it did. Was happy to see it go.
I found those converters slightly better than the MOTU 24i/o I had at the time, with both quite a bit less good than the MOTU 16A I use now. I would vote for an interface with a DAW ran simply like a tape machine.
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Post by mulmany on Mar 15, 2018 7:53:11 GMT -6
I found the HD24XR fairly buggy and frustrating to drive. Drive caddy's would not mount reliably at times, clones from one to another would be incomplete, copy/paste actions have very little RAM available, so a big multi-track copy/paste might be too large, frequently. Transfers to/from computer were buggy, and rarely worked correctly at higher rates. Using it solely as I/O to a computer was also frustrating, with slow reconfiguration for different tasks. Never worked right with a BRC, despite claims that it did. Was happy to see it go. I found those converters slightly better than the MOTU 24i/o I had at the time, with both quite a bit less good than the MOTU 16A I use now. I would vote for an interface with a DAW ran simply like a tape machine. Thanks for that. I currently have a 16a so that's good to know. Between you and Dan those are big strikes against the HD24xr. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 15, 2018 8:01:21 GMT -6
I thought about this and a Radar system a while back and each decision seemed to simply added other uncertainties/costs,so I just bought a symphony mkii 16x16, thinking I can add a used 8x8 mki if I really need it.
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Post by svart on Mar 15, 2018 9:05:08 GMT -6
I use my Alphalink/DAW essentially as a tape deck where I can edit tracks visually. I don't do too many plugs in the DAW and try to use mostly outboard with the mixer and racks with most of the plugs residing in the SSL Mixer program that came with the SSL DSP card, but a few plugs do get used in the DAW occasionally. I do find myself doing a lot of track editing in place of things like gating and compression though.
It's just so much easier to highlight a section, do a pre-roll and have it drop in/out of record a little ahead and behind and then just nudge the tracks a little in the DAW than do repeated takes to get the punch correct.. It' little stuff like that, that end up eating tons of time.
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Post by aremos on Mar 15, 2018 13:38:48 GMT -6
I have a mint condition BRC if anyone's interested!
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Post by rowmat on Mar 16, 2018 14:23:54 GMT -6
We use two HD24XR's as I/O's for our DAW without HDD's.
We used a single HD24XR for a while as AD<>DA however as the tracks can only be armed in adjacent pairs when recording it was often a fiddly process especially having to reconfigure I/O's in the DAW and cue sends on the board when overdubbing.
The solution was to use one HD24XR as a dedicated A/D while the other is the D/A.
The A/D is set to analog in while the D/A is set to digital in.
These are currently Lightpiped via a Presonus Firestudio Lightpipe to our iMac.
Now all we do is turn on the HD24XR's at the start of a session and forget about them.
We never have to touch them during a session.
I have upgraded the opamps and bypassed the electro caps and they sound great.
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Post by hasbeen on Mar 17, 2018 16:18:55 GMT -6
I used one for years. Had it modified by Jim Williams. I used HD24 Tools software with a fireport to transfer to Logic. Never had a problem. But it was certainly more time consuming than other methods. But I loved the sound and the way the interface was like using tape machines I had been accustomed to.
When UAD started using thunderbolt I finally switched to Apollo. But still used the ADAT conversion for the extra tracks and that wonderful sound. Jim Williams did a great job.
I sold it for a good price last year but really miss using it with the Apollo.
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Post by michaelcleary on Mar 20, 2018 17:43:33 GMT -6
I used a stock HD24 for our last two albums thru an APB 32x4 prodesk. Loved it and loved mixing on the board. Could never get the fireport to work on transfers but that wasnt a big deal. Decided to go into the box two years ago and never looked back. Cubase/macbook pro via motu 16a. Quite the learning curve for me having never done computer recording in the last 30 years, but got the hang of it after two months. Although I got used to and actually didnt mind the restraint of 24 tracks, now having unlimited tracks is amazing. My goal is to have 100 background vox on a tune. So far i'm up to 60....
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Post by jimwilliams on Mar 21, 2018 11:04:15 GMT -6
I still use and love mine. It is never out of date. Jack in ESS or BurrBrown conversion and it's as good as that stuff is. I find it very fast and intuitive when running an analog studio. Live it always impresses.
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