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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 4, 2018 7:31:01 GMT -6
So, I have been getting my head around having a real board and OB fx to use and as I transitioned working on a new tune "soon". I decided to stay with developing the same tune, so that was constant. So, here is a ruff session mix using the delta eqs and my ob comps but nothing on the 2 buss and minimal plugs in session: 7th heaven verb though. I guess my big take away so far is that for me using real gear makes me much more aware of subtle things in the mix and it seems to me that the real gear can be used with more subtlety too ? For example, if I want slight differences in a track's volume and or presence, I can raise or lower an ob comps output by 1 increment and hear that difference. Big thanks to Wiz for al his patient advise keeping me on track and Svart helping me to understand some of the electrical issues. Early days but I am appreciating this new system and its abilities and potential: been fun to use mu new Warm mikes too. Constructive comments always appreciated. soundcloud.com/kcatthedog/soon-24-bit |
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Post by johneppstein on Mar 4, 2018 13:43:03 GMT -6
So, I have been getting my head around having a real board and OB fx to use and as I transitioned working on a new tune "soon". I decided to stay with developing the same tune, so that was constant. So, here is a ruff session mix using the delta eqs and my ob comps but nothing on the 2 buss and minimal plugs in session: 7th heaven verb though. I guess my big take away so far is that for me using real gear makes me much more aware of subtle things in the mix and it seems to me that the real gear can be used with more subtlety too ? For example, if I want slight differences in a track's volume and or presence, I can raise or lower an ob comps output by 1 increment and hear that difference. Big thanks to Wiz for al his patient advise keeping me on track and Svart helping me to understand some of the electrical issues. Early days but I am appreciating this new system and its abilities and potential: been fun to use mu new Warm mikes too. Constructive comments always appreciated. soundcloud.com/kcatthedog/soon-24-bitGlad to hear you're enjoying your new rig. Yes, working on hardware does seem a lot more sensitive, and often you'll find that small adjustments are quite effective where ITB you'd be doing somerthing more exaggerated, if that's the right word. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 4, 2018 14:05:47 GMT -6
That’s a good way to describe it: exaggeration or excess. With my new ob signal chain its like my working resolution was recalibrated to a finer scale, so you can make smaller moves.
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Post by gouge on Mar 4, 2018 15:37:45 GMT -6
Itb exaggeration really comes down to the plugs you are using.
Whilst I agree otb has stuff itb cant touch yet the good plugs dont exaggerate.
Unless of course they were designed to.
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 4, 2018 15:41:53 GMT -6
Sorry if I wasn’t clear, I wasn’t saying the plug exaggerates.
It seems that the plug ins’ effect is less noticeable , than is the effect of the real gear, to me, so I then use the real gear with more precision.
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Post by hadaja on Mar 4, 2018 23:39:07 GMT -6
Yep Wiz is a great resource as well as being a really nice bloke in person. Best to visit him after easter time as he seems to have an abundance of left over easter eggs. Hmmm chocolate.
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Post by johneppstein on Mar 5, 2018 8:04:19 GMT -6
Sorry if I wasn’t clear, I wasn’t saying the plug exaggerates. It seems that the plug ins’ effect is less noticeable , than is the effect of the real gear, to me, so I then use the real gear with more precision. No, the plugs donh't exaggerate. Plugins (and digital processing in general) are oddly insensitive, so YOUR MOVES tend to become exaggerated. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 5, 2018 9:37:39 GMT -6
@johne:
Yes,, that is exactly what I find, plus previously with my Apollo, I simply couldn't hear things as clearly and or linearly.
So that is why I prefer my symphony mkii to work in to and from.
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Post by ericn on Mar 5, 2018 13:01:25 GMT -6
One of the first realizations when I went back to the Console was the how much simpler it was to mix with continuously variable pots, all DAW controls are stepped to some degree and often you have to trim things to get that level between steps for it to sit just right !
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Post by johneppstein on Mar 5, 2018 14:32:43 GMT -6
One of the first realizations when I went back to the Console was the how much simpler it was to mix with continuously variable pots, all DAW controls are stepped to some degree and often you have to trim things to get that level between steps for it to sit just right ! One of the things about digital audio is that everything is quantized, it's how digital works. So of course all the controls are "stepped" - digital itself is stepped. And when you're adjusting controls based on renditions on a pixelated screen the quantizing is going to be even courser than the digital resolution of the program itself because you're confined to screen resolution. |
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Post by ragan on Mar 6, 2018 10:23:35 GMT -6
Only got to listen in my truck but sounds good. I like the guitar tones and the chorus gets stuck in my head.
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 6, 2018 10:51:02 GMT -6
Only got to listen in my truck but sounds good. I like the guitar tones and the chorus gets stuck in my head. thx, I used my lepage plug in ! |
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Post by ragan on Mar 6, 2018 10:56:52 GMT -6
Only got to listen in my truck but sounds good. I like the guitar tones and the chorus gets stuck in my head. thx, I used my lepage plug in ! What is that? |
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 6, 2018 11:06:47 GMT -6
Sorry, its Canada's most famous carpenters' general purpose glue !
the guitar parts are my tokai blonde strat and epi les paul into my egnator, with a locally made stomp box comp and into the 412, in the mix gtrs used the delta eq and my bla AGP comp.
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Post by johneppstein on Mar 8, 2018 10:15:35 GMT -6
Sorry, its Canada's most famous carpenters' general purpose glue ! the guitar parts are my tokai blonde strat and epi les paul into my egnator, with a locally made stomp box comp and into the 412, in the mix gtrs used the delta eq and my bla AGP comp. In the US Lepage is a major source for mucilage office glue, used for papers. Don't recall seeing any other glues by them here... |
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 8, 2018 11:09:27 GMT -6
Ask your local Mountie !  |
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