Twin 50 Focal Shapes!

Noooo

He's talking about the brand new twin 50's. They just put these out like a few days ago and I'm seriously pissed. That would've been the pair I got. Oh well, I'm more than happy with what I have, but they look killler.

The thing about these are they're 2.5 way. So you're getting exactly what I've been talking about in a more precise and less stressed way. One woofer is doing the low-mid and the other is doing the rest of the lowend.

If I was someone that bought any of the Shapes and you still are in the window of returning, do it, and get these. I'm seriously pissed that my rep didn't tell me these were on the horizon. If I'd known that I would of waited, but someone wanted to make a end of the year sale and they just lost my business.

. Lol...you guys crack me up! It’s all good! I swear I’m losing sleep over conversion and new monitors!

I'd always run subs..... I think the KRK 10 is a good one a lot of guys use. I use a pair from Seismic Audio that I modified, I ended up paying like $400 for both of them maybe? They also have a passive radiator where the port is although you can't see it. I wouldn't suggest getting that pair unless you know how to mod the circuit, otherwise you're not going to be very happy, but, if you mod them they are an absolute steal for the money.

Best way to go is those KRK's. I think Mackie also has a new 10" sub out as well that is supposed to be good. I always listen to the speakers without the subs first to see how much of the low's I'm getting, that determines how much of the subs I'm going to add in. Usually its just a pinch, just enough to fill out the bottom so I can hear a nice flat spectrum. Now if you're just using them for tracking and not mixing, then crank those subs up, the low-end energy always made me track better, gave me more ideas etc. When it comes to tracking you want to be inspired by how awesome things are sounding, and when things are massive and flattering they sound awesome, so I don't know if I'd go with these to track with, the Mackie HR824's or even those KRK 10-3's are much more fun to track on. These speakers are meant for critical listening and do their best work at low to mid volumes.

Conversion wise I just discovered Dangerous has a new converter, the Convert 2 +
Holy smokes I'm getting that A/D. I don't care if I have to sell off some of my island gear, I'm getting that A/D. I do believe the RME ADI-2 DAC will be my D/A as well, so I'll have about $3,500 in just my monitoring and printing conversion, but to me that's where it's the most critical.

You might want to check into running dual subs...... I was critical of it when some heavy hitters on here suggested it, but I wouldn't ever go back to a single sub again. Honestly if Ship were still with us today I'd imagine he'd venture into the new technology that is out there now. Those new Mackies and KRK's really are great for the money. If you can find some that are sealed or have a passive radiator setup it'll only increase your accuracy. Sorry, I'm just really against ported designs unless its a really hi-end company that has put a tremendous amount of time into R&D and also using DSP to correct the issues ported cabs have. It's less noticeable in subs, yes, but when you have a truly sealed or passive radiator setup you can definitely feel and hear the difference in the translation.

Well as long as you understand that the Shapes are more focused on being extremely accurate rather than flattery, I can't suggest anything else that would beat them out, unless you get into the really expensive ATC's. These Focal Twin Shapes will probably rival or even beat out speakers like Barefoot's.

Not just dual but true stereo subs !!!
I’ll say it again but the big problem with mono subs is the comb filtering in the octave above the crossover point. This is the suck out you often hear with mono subs.
If you are going to go the mono route somebody has a nice Rythmik on Reverb!
But what we really need is somebody to build a monitor controller with real bass management with switchable high pass & low pass for various high mid combinations and separate high pass for running mid highs “full range “!

FWIW,
I have been a dealer for Focal Pro since 2007. And I learned about them the first day of the NAMM show. Lately, The Distributor isn't always giving us the details, at the moment they are needed, so we reach out. So, maybe give the guy a bit of slack on the doing buisness part.

Why lower?  ..a larger encloser?  ..It's not from more surface area on the drivers, is it?  In a smaller room, is there no need for the twins if the quality is the same as the Shape 50's from 50Hz up? 

Though it's not exactly split, is it? Maybe overlaps? The top does 40-2.5 while the bottom reinforces 40-180. That right?

One thing I liked about the Adam A7X's is that low mid you speak of. I could hear exactly what was going on with the low mids in that speaker, but couldn't stand the rest of the speaker.