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Post by ragan on Mar 12, 2018 14:30:51 GMT -6
Another vote for Omnisphere - It allows you to mix and max dozens of sampled waveforms from different classic synths as well as their filters to create your own unique vintage vibe, not to mention being able to use the vast sample library for interesting layering on top of the old analog sounds. So long as you don't mind all of the options, it's a good way to go, and should be a good fit alongside Keyscape. With that being said, Diva is pretty bitchin' too, and probably more "authentic" as far as the circuit modeling is concerned. Yeah I need to check out Omnisphere before making a purchase.
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Post by neotron54 on Mar 20, 2018 6:06:32 GMT -6
Repro 1 is especially beefy:
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Post by ragan on Jul 26, 2018 11:54:21 GMT -6
Bought Diva.
I’ve been playing the demo (with the intermittent crackling) for months and just can’t get off it. It’s so lush and classic sounding to me. I just gravitate towards it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2018 12:47:52 GMT -6
You see where Behringer just dropped their hardware Moog model D for like $300? Yeah, I'm seriously considering this one. It would be my first behringer purchase..... Don't do it!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2018 12:50:20 GMT -6
What MIDI keyboard controllers do you guys recommend for playing these things? I was very fond of the Fatar keybeds Korg used to use in the 90's (Wavestation etc.) but no idea what the market's like now. Last time I tried a load of cheap MIDI keyboard controllers in the shops in Japan about a decade ago, they all felt spongy, plasticky and horrible.
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Post by matt on Jul 26, 2018 13:12:16 GMT -6
Last time I tried a load of cheap MIDI keyboard controllers in the shops in Japan about a decade ago, they all felt spongy, plasticky and horrible. Sounds like you're interested in something semi or fully weighted. I have about the cheapest you can buy, an M-Audio Oxygen 49, and while it functions, serious players would not be happy for the reasons you cite.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2018 13:25:16 GMT -6
What's a bit bit better than the cheapest one?
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Post by popmann on Jul 26, 2018 13:27:49 GMT -6
I dont know. Honestly, I have an 88key Kronos which has a nice properietary keybed. Their “rh3” found in their SV1....i feel like a few of their synths. Thing is, I feel like theres do you want it to feel super authentic like a piano, or be able to play anything and feel “piano like”—thats what tohe rh3 is....the Roland stage pianos have more authentic action, but it makes them impossible to play much other than pianos with. Same I would assume with a VPC1, which is reigning barre none champ of reputation of piano action.
Lots of piano playing firends lovwe the inexpensive Casio lines. I just dont get it. Bang for the buck? Sure....its a useable lightweight $599 DP.....but, its just feels cheap under the fingers to me and lightwieght means it moves when i hit hard....i dont know. I mention because they ARE bang for the buck. I find most anything marketed as a controller is garbage. Which is weird—shouldnt be that way....they should build a controller like a brick shithouse....because theres nothing dated in it....anyway-i knw nothing about unweighted synthy controllers, because i dont use them. I bought a D70 new and it sat her for 25 years being used occassionally....to play Hammond. once i bought a real organ it rusted out figuratively.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2018 13:40:02 GMT -6
Absolutely doesn't have to feel like a piano, as I have never played one seriously. It just has to feel solid and well built, not wobbly, or spongy. A lot of 90's digital synths had really nice feeling keybeds (Korg, Kurzweil etc.), which I have since learned were made by Fatar. Stuff I've tried from around 2000 on feels very different, much "cheaper" and less solid. I can't really explain it better than that, as I am not a keyboard player, but I do want something that feels "professional" and solid.
A more modern one I tried that did feel good was the Waldorf Blofeld keyboard.
This is the reason I have been scared off of buying a MIDI keyboard controller for years, was hoping some of you might have some good ideas!
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Post by ragan on Jul 26, 2018 13:51:12 GMT -6
For synth, I’ve been using an MPK49 for years and I like it. Feels very solid to me (too stiff for some people). Knobs and faders and buttons all feel solid.
For piano stuff I somewhat recently picked up a Yamaha KX88 (at the recommendation from some people here) for a couple hundred bucks and I love the thing. Feels great to me. Heavy as hell though. Moving it sucks.
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Post by lando on Jul 27, 2018 1:00:36 GMT -6
+1 for Diva and Repro if you want the vintage flavours.
Omnisphere 2 is absolutely awesome aswell, but more about ambient sounds, sound design, scoring etc. Some solid vintage synths in there sswell.
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Post by joseph on Jul 27, 2018 20:54:05 GMT -6
For synth, I’ve been using an MPK49 for years and I like it. Feels very solid to me (too stiff for some people). Knobs and faders and buttons all feel solid. For piano stuff I somewhat recently picked up a Yamaha KX88 (at the recommendation from some people here) for a couple hundred bucks and I love the thing. Feels great to me. Heavy as hell though. Moving it sucks. Yeah I have a KX88 and it is heavy as shit. About as heavy as my wurly ha ha. It has by far the best keyboard action of any midi controller I've used though. Even on synths I prefer weighted keys because they're just more expressive, if you can modulate the amplitude with velocity.
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Post by aremos on Jul 28, 2018 10:41:57 GMT -6
Think my Roland A-80 might even be heavier
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Post by Guitar on Jul 28, 2018 15:59:56 GMT -6
I have a Yamaha CP33, they are discontinued. If you're looking for a new one the Yamaha P-255 might fit the bill. If you want a full sized slab-piano with some sounds.
If you just want synth action there are one million options, I use the Novation ReMote SL 61 MK II. Keys are a little sproingy but it generally works out ok. Good feel.
There are seemingly billions upon billions of new MIDI controllers being released every five minutes or so. I guess there's a market for these things.
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Post by rowmat on Jul 30, 2018 4:48:20 GMT -6
We have a Yamaha KX88. It's old and heavy but piano players love the action.
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Post by rob61 on Jul 30, 2018 6:53:58 GMT -6
Yamaha P200 also has a great reputation for feel amongst piano players... just MIDI out to newer sound libraries.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2018 6:57:03 GMT -6
Cheers for all the keyboard controller recommendations folks, I'll have to try some out in a shop and maybe order something from Thomann (can return it before 30 days if I hate the feel). I want a "synth" not a piano action, I just want it to feel solid and not spongy/cheap/plastic etc.
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Post by Guitar on Jul 30, 2018 8:08:04 GMT -6
I think a lot of the Roland keyboards (not necessarily midi controlers but basic older synths) have a good key feel. You can probably find some cheap things in this category.
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Post by Guitar on Jul 30, 2018 8:42:13 GMT -6
Yamaha MX61 looks pretty cool. You get sounds too, beyond just keys to play.
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Post by rowmat on Jul 30, 2018 14:09:37 GMT -6
Ray Charles used a KX88 while touring in the 1980's and 1990's.
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