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Post by matt on Jan 25, 2018 19:07:17 GMT -6
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Post by jeromemason on Jan 25, 2018 20:16:58 GMT -6
For over $2g's.......... The rack version is just $500 over that. For me, when it gets to being that close I go with the rack, having it's own PSU, nothing around it that could rob it of power or cause anomalies. Just would make me sleep better kicking up the extra $500.
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Post by wiz on Jan 25, 2018 20:59:09 GMT -6
For over $2g's.......... The rack version is just $500 over that. For me, when it gets to being that close I go with the rack, having it's own PSU, nothing around it that could rob it of power or cause anomalies. Just would make me sleep better kicking up the extra $500. I thought that, its no bargain Cheers Wiz |
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Post by c0rtland on Jan 25, 2018 21:30:16 GMT -6
this release makes the rack version price increase even more understandable.
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Post by Bender on Jan 25, 2018 21:36:20 GMT -6
It's almost as if they WANT to give more business to CAPI.  |
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Post by john on Jan 25, 2018 22:17:04 GMT -6
Rack version is 3100$
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Post by gouge on Jan 26, 2018 5:58:19 GMT -6
plugin cost me 29$
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Post by matt on Jan 26, 2018 8:23:42 GMT -6
For over $2g's.......... The rack version is just $500 over that. For me, when it gets to being that close I go with the rack, having it's own PSU, nothing around it that could rob it of power or cause anomalies. Just would make me sleep better kicking up the extra $500. I thought that, its no bargain Cheers Wiz Looks like the days of $2595 are over. It's $3130 at VK, Sweetwater, and elsewhere. |
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Post by Quint on Jan 26, 2018 9:41:33 GMT -6
Some may disagree with me, but API's price hikes in recent years don't seem to align anymore with the perceived value of their products. It kind of reminds me of what's been going on with Gibson in recent memory.
Keep trading on the value associated with the brand and hope people keep paying ever increasing prices. Do dentists disproportionately buy more API products than other people?
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Post by drsax on Jan 26, 2018 10:53:04 GMT -6
Some may disagree with me, but API's price hikes in recent years don't seem to align anymore with the perceived value of their products. It kind of reminds me of what's been going on with Gibson in recent memory. Keep trading on the value associated with the brand and hope people keep paying ever increasing prices. Do dentists disproportionately buy more API products than other people? Agreed. I like API stuff, but it’s rather overpriced these days IMO |
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Post by Quint on Jan 26, 2018 11:07:03 GMT -6
Some may disagree with me, but API's price hikes in recent years don't seem to align anymore with the perceived value of their products. It kind of reminds me of what's been going on with Gibson in recent memory. Keep trading on the value associated with the brand and hope people keep paying ever increasing prices. Do dentists disproportionately buy more API products than other people? Agreed. I like API stuff, but it’s rather overpriced these days IMO Yeah, $950 for the 512V? No thanks. Not for a non-boutique, mass produced preamp which, I think the consensus has concluded, is not as good as the CAPI stuff in either quality or price. |
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Post by b0b0 on Jan 28, 2018 8:20:40 GMT -6
It's almost as if they WANT to give more business to CAPI. That’s what I said to myself as well... that being said; I don’t know of any bus comp that CAPI offers or is planning. |
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Post by pope on Jan 28, 2018 8:35:23 GMT -6
It's almost as if they WANT to give more business to CAPI. I know what you mean but we also have to consider that CAPI is what? 1-2 person business? CAPI's overhead must be like next to nothing comparing to API. In fact, CAPI might be making more profit per unit. Not sure though, just thinking out loud really  |
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Post by EmRR on Jan 28, 2018 9:25:12 GMT -6
At that price, it better have a strong identity outside of simply the API name. Lots of really good competition well under that price.
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Post by ericn on Jan 28, 2018 13:26:40 GMT -6
It's almost as if they WANT to give more business to CAPI. I know what you mean but we also have to consider that CAPI is what? 1-2 person business? CAPI's overhead must be like next to nothing comparing to API. In fact, CAPI might be making more profit per unit. Not sure though, just thinking out loud really Considering most of API's manufacturering is via OEM API itself isn't that big! |
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Post by pope on Jan 28, 2018 14:54:49 GMT -6
OK, thanks for the info. Didn't know that.
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Post by matt on Jan 29, 2018 9:35:38 GMT -6
Interesting responses on this thread. Not one truly positive reaction to this product. Overpriced and inherently flawed (as it is 500 series hardware) is what I read out of it. If I were API - and I'm not affiliated in any way, just a fan of their stuff - I would be alarmed. Particularly by the sentiment "it may be good, but there's better value propositions", which is a common response (seven negative comments). Too bad, since it's probably a really good compressor.
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Post by drbill on Jan 29, 2018 10:33:38 GMT -6
I think it looks pretty cool. If it is supposed to be a 500 racked 2500, I'd say the price is killer. But there is one feature that I find lacking that is super unique on the 2500 - and that's the variable link aspect of L/R linking. One of the few comps that can do that. I'd be curious as to why they left that off...
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Post by matt on Jan 29, 2018 11:42:27 GMT -6
But there is one feature that I find lacking that is super unique on the 2500 - and that's the variable link aspect of L/R linking. One of the few comps that can do that. I'd be curious as to why they left that off... I missed that when comparing with the 2500. That is interesting. I don't really need another comp. But I have empty space in both of my 500 racks and could easily fit something like one (or more) 529s in, or a few EQs, or squeeze a 2500 or Retro Revolver into the main rack. Empty space bothers me. |
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Post by drbill on Jan 29, 2018 12:59:11 GMT -6
But there is one feature that I find lacking that is super unique on the 2500 - and that's the variable link aspect of L/R linking. One of the few comps that can do that. I'd be curious as to why they left that off... I missed that when comparing with the 2500. That is interesting. I don't really need another comp. But I have empty space in both of my 500 racks and could easily fit something like one (or more) 529s in, or a few EQs, or squeeze a 2500 or Retro Revolver into the main rack. Empty space bothers me.Hahaaa!!! You and me both. |
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Post by ericn on Jan 29, 2018 18:20:54 GMT -6
I missed that when comparing with the 2500. That is interesting. I don't really need another comp. But I have empty space in both of my 500 racks and could easily fit something like one (or more) 529s in, or a few EQs, or squeeze a 2500 or Retro Revolver into the main rack. Empty space bothers me.Hahaaa!!! You and me both. So you need to come up with a cool 500 module with Brad! I mean we know all even number of empty rack space at DrBill's clinic ( you know I just figured it out in a way all my gear budget seams to go to your Avatar DR's BILLS) are filled with Silver Bullets 😎 |
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Post by drbill on Jan 29, 2018 18:45:48 GMT -6
There are some cool 500 modules from LTL. Chroma, Chop Shop and surprises for the patient....
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Post by ericn on Jan 30, 2018 2:37:23 GMT -6
There are some cool 500 modules from LTL. Chroma, Chop Shop and surprises for the patient.... Hey I think the Chopshop is the number 1 must have 500 module for anybody with a an outboard mic pre and recording in anything but the best rooms! It took a number of years of not having a SSL 4K in front of me to realize it wasn't the EQ I missed but the filters! Decent Analog filters before the signal hits the converter can save your ass and your headroom! Everybody thinks, " but it's easy to use the filters in the box" never to understand it's not just about removing unwanted noise or bleed it's about dynamics and headroom and keeping that unwanted noise from taking it all away! I think those of us who learned a HPF on a sub can give you more bass are forever filter freaks! |
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Post by drbill on Jan 30, 2018 11:45:24 GMT -6
Yes!
There's a great mixTV review that really shows exactly what you're talking about eric. it clearly shows how to get more LF punch and clarity by CUTTING out unwanted sub bass while making creative use of the resonant bump at the cutoff freq. You've got to get past a couple of minutes of random knob tweaking though. The variable resonant bump on the Chop Shop is killer. Unlike and far beyond any other console style EQ filters I've used.
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