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Post by Quint on Jan 9, 2018 20:45:08 GMT -6
I had been considering getting another pair of Electras but I'm kind of interested now in building a pair of CAPI eqs. A while back, I had actually been really interested in doing a pair of the LC53a. That seemed to me like a perfect combination of topology and eq style/frequency points, but they're discontinued now...
Regardless, I'm interested in either building one LC25 and one LC40 or building two BT50. I could also do two LC25 or two LC40, but it seems like most people have gotten one of each for increased flexibility and eq points, though I'm open to being swayed on the matter. Whatever I get, I'm looking to primarily use them as tracking eq, primarily on drums, though they would also get used on guitars and what not and I would also use them some during mixing as well.
So what are y'all getting more use and/or flexibility out of? An LC25/LC40 combo or a pair of BT50?
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Post by Bender on Jan 9, 2018 22:53:10 GMT -6
Really boils down to what you're looking for EQ wise. The LC's are definitely more flexible & capable of really digging in and sculpting the sounds in comparison to the Bt50's. Having built and used all of them you can't go wrong either way really. Though if going the LC pair route I'd get two of the same for buss duties if you don't have an EQ to cover that terrain.
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Post by Quint on Jan 9, 2018 23:18:10 GMT -6
Really boils down to what you're looking for EQ wise. The LC's are definitely more flexible & capable of really digging in and sculpting the sounds in comparison to the Bt50's. Having built and used all of them you can't go wrong either way really. Though if going the LC pair route I'd get two of the same for buss duties if you don't have an EQ to cover that terrain. I've already got quite a few eqs, all of them in pairs and many of them capable on busses. I'm just looking to round out the collection. Normally, I'd just buy one and give it a shot in most cases, but since these require building, I figured I'd see what people thought first. I was kind of slightly leaning in the LC direction, so it's good to hear your opinion.
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Post by drbill on Jan 9, 2018 23:24:51 GMT -6
For my money, I'd go with 2 LC25's. Right now I have two bender built LC's - a 25 and 40, and I lean more towards the 25's for production work. I definitely prefer them over the 50's. But I'm the odd guy out. A lot of guis disagree with me about my thoughts. LOL Take it with a grain of salt.
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Post by Quint on Jan 9, 2018 23:32:52 GMT -6
For my money, I'd go with 2 LC25's. Right now I have two bender built LC's - a 25 and 40, and I lean more towards the 25's for production work. I definitely prefer them over the 50's. But I'm the odd guy out. A lot of guis disagree with me about my thoughts. LOL Take it with a grain of salt. What about the 25 do you prefer over the 40?
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Post by drbill on Jan 10, 2018 1:10:10 GMT -6
For my money, I'd go with 2 LC25's. Right now I have two bender built LC's - a 25 and 40, and I lean more towards the 25's for production work. I definitely prefer them over the 50's. But I'm the odd guy out. A lot of guis disagree with me about my thoughts. LOL Take it with a grain of salt. What about the 25 do you prefer over the 40? The chosen frequencies.
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Post by marten on Jan 11, 2018 8:03:39 GMT -6
Got a pair of BT50s here and will get more this year. Go for it.
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Post by mdmitch2 on Jan 11, 2018 9:23:25 GMT -6
Both are great -- if primarily for drum use, I'd get the LC25's or LC40's depending on which frequencies you like. Having 10 bands is so powerful for carving out drum tones.... Personally I'd get an LC25 for kick (for the 25/50/100 hz) and an LC40 for snare because I tend to find the snare body around 160hz.
If you want all purpose, useful on everything, super smooth, capable of ridiculous boosting, get the BT50's. Ideally, get both because they cover different territory, and compliment each other quite nicely.
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Post by nomatic on Jan 11, 2018 15:33:06 GMT -6
I really Love both the 50s and 25s (have a pair of both) I agree with the above post completely!
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Post by Quint on Jan 11, 2018 16:07:43 GMT -6
Both are great -- if primarily for drum use, I'd get the LC25's or LC40's depending on which frequencies you like. Having 10 bands is so powerful for carving out drum tones.... Personally I'd get an LC25 for kick (for the 25/50/100 hz) and an LC40 for snare because I tend to find the snare body around 160hz. If you want all purpose, useful on everything, super smooth, capable of ridiculous boosting, get the BT50's. Ideally, get both because they cover different territory, and compliment each other quite nicely. It's for carving up kick, snare and toms that I'm primarily looking at, which is why I think I've initially been leaning towards the LCs over the BT50. I could always get one LC25 and one LC40 and, if I decide I'd rather have two of one instead of one of each, I could always sell the LC I don't want and get another of the LC I do want.
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Post by drbill on Jan 11, 2018 17:49:40 GMT -6
Def the LC's. Again, my preference for this would be the 25's. But if you get the 40 and want 2 40's, I'll trade you a 40 for a 25!!
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Post by Quint on Jan 11, 2018 20:11:08 GMT -6
Def the LC's. Again, my preference for this would be the 25's. But if you get the 40 and want 2 40's, I'll trade you a 40 for a 25!! I'll keep that in mind. It could be a while before I buy these though. It could also be next month. I have other irons in the fire as well, so it depends on how some other things go. But I am thinking more and more that an LC25/LC40 combo may be my next eq purchase. Well maybe my second purchase after the new Warm WA-273 EQ hits the shelves. We'll see....
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Post by Quint on Jan 12, 2018 0:12:54 GMT -6
So how does the sound of the "swinging input" associated with gyrators in the LC25/40 design differ from what I'm used to seeing and hearing with "swinging input" style eqs which have inductors?
I've liked other swinging input/inductor style eqs I've used/heard, which is also why I originally had an interest in the LC53a. I'm curious how the sound differs between those and a swinging input style eq which uses gyrators like the LC25/40?
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Post by Blackdawg on Nov 6, 2018 12:37:06 GMT -6
I really Love both the 50s and 25s (have a pair of both) I agree with the above post completely! have you uses you 25s and 40s in line? As in one feeding the other so you basically have a full 20band eq on the bus? Thinking this could merit some great mastering results.
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Post by nomatic on Nov 6, 2018 17:32:41 GMT -6
I have not.....
I would need to mod the units to 1/2 DB boost cut for mastering personally....
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Post by Blackdawg on Nov 7, 2018 0:31:40 GMT -6
I have not..... I would need to mod the units to 1/2 DB boost cut for mastering personally.... That's true. Just +/-2dB to start right?
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Post by kevinnyc on Jan 22, 2019 14:54:01 GMT -6
That’d be a pretty cool product...the stepped, mastering stereo 20 band eq....
I already want one...
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Post by Blackdawg on Jan 22, 2019 16:21:59 GMT -6
Really wouldn't be hard to make one like that. All it would be I think is different resistor values for the switches. Wouldn't match the silk screen printing either.. Be cool if Jeff did one that was in 0.5 dB steps though! What say you Jeff? jsteiger
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Post by kevinnyc on Jan 22, 2019 16:36:19 GMT -6
High and low pass filters and missing link/VP28 faders with Jeff’s new giant CAPI knobs...
It’d be one beefy, sexy beast.
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Post by Blackdawg on Jan 22, 2019 16:43:52 GMT -6
CAPI mastering channel strip.
That would be bad ass.
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Post by kevinnyc on Jan 22, 2019 16:46:58 GMT -6
All the components already exist...
Coupla hours to lay out the pcb and design the faceplate.....
We could be building these in a couple of weeks 😂
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Post by Guitar on Jan 25, 2019 11:20:35 GMT -6
I am excited that I am about to expand my 500 space available so I can fit some extra modules like CAPI and DIYRE.
I know this is not the topic of the thread but has anyone here tried the Yann Lu EQ? I really want that one for some reason.
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