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Post by wiz on Jan 1, 2018 17:37:07 GMT -6
I was wondering if anyone has done this.
Put a SSD on their USB3 or Thunderbolt on a iMac and run their system disc on that, as opposed to the conventional internal hard drive?
See much of a change?
Cheers
Wiz
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Post by drbill on Jan 1, 2018 18:16:55 GMT -6
I haven't done it with a SSDrive, but I've done that with standard sata drives all the time. On firewire, USB2 & USB3. MacOS. MacPro's.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 1, 2018 18:23:14 GMT -6
You mean, replace your sata boot drive with an SSD? I've done that...and you will be absolutely shocked.
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Post by drbill on Jan 1, 2018 18:25:29 GMT -6
You mean, replace your sata boot drive with an SSD? I've done that...and you will be absolutely shocked. John - he's talking about running the boot drive externally - OUTside the computer. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 1, 2018 18:27:58 GMT -6
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Post by mulmany on Jan 1, 2018 18:54:09 GMT -6
You can do it. You just tell the Mac what drive is the boot. It is fast over thunderbolt, and will not really see any difference if the enclosure is up to spec.
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Post by drbill on Jan 1, 2018 19:08:11 GMT -6
But I think if you want it to be your boot drive, it has to be inside the machine, right? Nope. Can be external. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 1, 2018 19:41:52 GMT -6
Wiz I run two internal ssd’s in My mbp and at different times used either as boot: no difference.
I have also had a non ssd external run as boot occasionally when I was trouble shooting.
I would think an external ssd would be fine but is there some reason you are not upgrading an internal drive ?
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Post by wiz on Jan 1, 2018 19:47:56 GMT -6
Wiz I run two internal ssd’s in My mbp and at different times used either as boot: no difference. I have also had a non ssd external run as boot occasionally when I was trouble shooting. I would think an external ssd would be fine but is there some reason you are not upgrading an internal drive ? So I don't have to rip it apart...... and probably use the internal as a place to archive Cheers Wiz |
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 1, 2018 19:49:53 GMT -6
Fair enough:) Mac Sales owc has good how to videos and sells the parts but going external sounds simpler !
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Post by stormymondays on Jan 2, 2018 4:05:10 GMT -6
Wiz I run two internal ssd’s in My mbp and at different times used either as boot: no difference. I have also had a non ssd external run as boot occasionally when I was trouble shooting. I would think an external ssd would be fine but is there some reason you are not upgrading an internal drive ? So I don't have to rip it apart...... and probably use the internal as a place to archive Cheers Wiz Whatever you do the improvement is going to make your jaw drop. However, I recommend going for the external. It really, really easy. Get an external enclosure and the drive. Clone the internal drive with Carbon Copy Cloner or Super Duper. Then open the computer and swap the internal and the cloned external drive. Done! |
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Post by stormymondays on Jan 2, 2018 4:06:58 GMT -6
Oops, I didn't realize you're taking about an iMac. I've done it a couple times but they make it harder with ever newer model. Take a look at iFix it and decide. The external drive will serve you well too!
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Post by lcr on Jan 2, 2018 7:42:34 GMT -6
Im actually doing this today to the family imac.. 2013 i5 8gb ram 5400 internal and it just creeps/beachballs along.. I have a usb 3.0 480gb ssd that Im gonna super duper image the internal to. For me the free super duper is great.
1. It works
2. Its dirt simple to use
3. It works.
I’ve used it for years. I’ll report back...
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Post by popmann on Jan 2, 2018 9:36:23 GMT -6
Is it a Fusion drive? IF so, you should be able to break the Fusion logical set and have a 128gb PCIe SSD to reinstall OS X to....and use or replace the slow 3TB magnetic.
But yes....you can do the external boot drive....and it's NOT a Fusion Drive, but just a spinner, yes you'll see a world of better performance in day to day.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2018 9:43:54 GMT -6
Solid state drives are where you'll begin to see a real difference between USB3 and Thunderbolt. In my experience a lot of the USB3 enclosures seem to be much slower with the same media than T-Bolt with the very same drives. Many USB3 enclosures seem to just have tweaked versions of hard drive controllers and don't really reach the speed that USB3 is capable of.
One interesting place you can go (and of course more money is involved) is to set up an external Thunderbolt RAID using SSDs. I've set up a dual SSD RAID-0 for VI samples. That will double the speed of the SSD. You'll then demote all your rotating media to backup functions.
I also added a T-Bolt SSD as a system drive on a 2012 Mac Mini. The difference is night and day.
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Post by wiz on Jan 5, 2018 3:34:15 GMT -6
I am typing to you from my new SSD external drive.
I bought a Samsung T5 500GB SSD.
I used Carbon Copy Cloner to clone my internal HD, and build the recovery portion on the SSD.
Quite amazing speed increase. Sure the SSD is not cheap, but, I think this is the best bang for buck performance increase I have ever seen.
cheers
Wiz
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Post by lcr on Jan 6, 2018 7:16:01 GMT -6
Wiz, are you able to select the ssd as the startup disk? So you dont have to hold option every boot and select it? I used super duper with a little sandisk and I was not able to select it as startup disk, kinda hokey.
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Post by wiz on Jan 6, 2018 15:13:32 GMT -6
Wiz, are you able to select the ssd as the startup disk? So you dont have to hold option every boot and select it? I used super duper with a little sandisk and I was not able to select it as startup disk, kinda hokey. Yes in system preferences, start up disk. Cheers Wiz |
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Post by lcr on Jan 6, 2018 18:47:59 GMT -6
Hmm.. I wonder if my issue was related to super duper or the sandisk ssd.
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