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Post by M57 on Dec 26, 2017 6:10:30 GMT -6
They've been on a tear recently, coming out with way more product than I would have ever guessed. I certainly didn't see the mics coming. My guess is SDC, but I'd love to see them come out with a ribbon mic.
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Post by Vincent R. on Dec 26, 2017 7:18:37 GMT -6
My guess would be a bus compressor.
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Post by M57 on Dec 26, 2017 7:50:34 GMT -6
I almost put compressor on the list! ..though I was thinking Vari-mu or VCA, but now I'm thinking.. What if someone came up with a Swiss-army knife compressor.. Kind of like DrBill's Silver Bullet, so you could audition, or better yet - blend compressor types? It's not a Warm type of product; they're into affordable replication. And it may not even make sense - otherwise the software people would be all over it, right? Oh well..
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Post by Johnkenn on Dec 26, 2017 10:40:47 GMT -6
I say ADDA
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Post by stormymondays on Dec 26, 2017 11:02:13 GMT -6
I almost put compressor on the list! ..though I was thinking Vari-mu or VCA, but now I'm thinking.. What if someone came up with a Swiss-army knife compressor.. Kind of like DrBill's Silver Bullet, so you could audition, or better yet - blend compressor types? It's not a Warm type of product; they're into affordable replication. And it may not even make sense - otherwise the software people would be all over it, right? Oh well.. That's what Kush's Novatron does, more or less. Different types of compressors blended into one.
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Post by drbill on Dec 26, 2017 11:39:20 GMT -6
Well.....their business model suggests that it will be a clone/replica of an iconic previously designed product, right?
So the logical SDC choice would be KM84. The logical ribbon would be an RCA - 77 or 44, 500 series would be porting their 73 pre and/or EQ over to 500 Monitors would be NS10's.
Bus compressor? Well, the SSL is the logical choice, but there are already a kazillion of them out there. IMO, warm would be insane to try one - unless their loyal customer base would sell their other clones for a warm.
As for innovation and a different approach like a Silver Bullet? I wouldn't expect that yet. It's a hard sell in a market that's expecting things that look like vintage replica's.
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Post by nick8801 on Dec 26, 2017 15:32:41 GMT -6
Warm Burl
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Post by ollie on Dec 30, 2017 13:17:03 GMT -6
The notion of monitors would be a good idea.
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Post by ollie on Dec 30, 2017 13:26:32 GMT -6
So would a really nice SDC. Something that can take high SPL without cracking up. Something I can mic my Tortoise with.
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Post by johneppstein on Dec 30, 2017 15:23:44 GMT -6
Well.....their business model suggests that it will be a clone/replica of an iconic previously designed product, right? So the logical SDC choice would be KM84. The logical ribbon would be an RCA - 77 or 44, 500 series would be porting their 73 pre and/or EQ over to 500 Monitors would be NS10's. Bus compressor? Well, the SSL is the logical choice, but there are already a kazillion of them out there. IMO, warm would be insane to try one - unless their loyal customer base would sell their other clones for a warm. As for innovation and a different approach like a Silver Bullet? I wouldn't expect that yet. It's a hard sell in a market that's expecting things that look like vintage replica's. I find NS-10s unlikely, as the reason they were discontinued is that they relied on a particular type of paper for the cone, which became unavailable.
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Post by lcr on Dec 30, 2017 15:36:09 GMT -6
1176 or LA2A plug-in.. seriously, hopefully a LA3A, Spectrosonics, or 2500ish buss comp that I can afford.
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Post by Guitar on Dec 30, 2017 15:46:23 GMT -6
If they could do a Fairchild I would wet my pants...
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Post by Vincent R. on Dec 30, 2017 18:34:45 GMT -6
If they could do a Fairchild I would wet my pants... That would be hard to pass up.
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Post by ragan on Dec 30, 2017 19:14:28 GMT -6
If they could do a Fairchild I would wet my pants... I don’t think it’s betraying anything to say that Bryce once told me he could do it. It was a casual response to me being pumped about the idea and it was a couple years ago so, grain of salt.
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Post by kcatthedog on Dec 30, 2017 19:18:38 GMT -6
I heard a rumour about that but a guy whose name begins with B said nah !
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Post by jeremygillespie on Dec 30, 2017 19:36:06 GMT -6
If they could do a Fairchild I would wet my pants... UTA did it already with the Unfairchild. Bring your wallet and a few credit cards!
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Post by M57 on Dec 30, 2017 19:53:45 GMT -6
I think you're all wrong and I'm sticking with my original choice. They're clearly getting into the mic game right now, and an SDC is a no-brainer addition. I'll go one more and predict they're coming out with a WA-84. My guess is $749 MSRP = $649 street.
The classic is discontinued AND KM-84's are like potato chips - nobody can buy just one. That'll be $1300 for a matched pair, thank you very much. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if it was less expensive. The magic price point is $499 ea. If they can do that..
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Post by drbill on Dec 30, 2017 20:22:32 GMT -6
Well.....their business model suggests that it will be a clone/replica of an iconic previously designed product, right? So the logical SDC choice would be KM84. The logical ribbon would be an RCA - 77 or 44, 500 series would be porting their 73 pre and/or EQ over to 500 Monitors would be NS10's. Bus compressor? Well, the SSL is the logical choice, but there are already a kazillion of them out there. IMO, warm would be insane to try one - unless their loyal customer base would sell their other clones for a warm. As for innovation and a different approach like a Silver Bullet? I wouldn't expect that yet. It's a hard sell in a market that's expecting things that look like vintage replica's. I find NS-10s unlikely, as the reason they were discontinued is that they relied on a particular type of paper for the cone, which became unavailable. Marinair transformers are unavailable too. As are VF14M's.....but that hasn't stopped anyone from "cloning" 1073's or U47's...
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Post by stormymondays on Dec 31, 2017 3:44:07 GMT -6
After listening online to every high end KM84 "clone" and owning the 3U KM84-inspired mic, I'm certain that only Neumann can make a KM84. Many people can make fine SDC mics, for sure...
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Post by M57 on Dec 31, 2017 6:17:30 GMT -6
After listening online to every high end KM84 "clone" and owning the 3U KM84-inspired mic, I'm certain that only Neumann can make a KM84. Many people can make fine SDC mics, for sure... Well, given that WA's "clones" (or anyones for that matter) are never perfect - just real close - isn't that good enough? For a fraction of the price? Besides, what makes "cloning" a KM84 any more difficult than cloning a U-87, or a WA-2A, or insert name of classic gear of your choice here? I mean, they're all near impossible depending on who you talk to. The key is how close it comes to sounding like the original, and can it be substituted in similar applications with very few people hearing the difference.
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Post by stormymondays on Dec 31, 2017 7:14:21 GMT -6
After listening online to every high end KM84 "clone" and owning the 3U KM84-inspired mic, I'm certain that only Neumann can make a KM84. Many people can make fine SDC mics, for sure... Well, given that WA's "clones" (or anyones for that matter) are never perfect - just real close - isn't that good enough? For a fraction of the price? Besides, what makes "cloning" a KM84 any more difficult than cloning a U-87, or a WA-2A, or insert name of classic gear of your choice here? I mean, they're all near impossible depending on who you talk to. The key is how close it comes to sounding like the original, and can it be substituted in similar applications with very few people hearing the difference. Yes, but the KM84 is simply just another SDC with flat response, plus "magic". The flat response can be replicated. The magic, in my experience, can't. Why not use another of the excellent and readily available SDC then?
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Post by johneppstein on Dec 31, 2017 11:46:06 GMT -6
I find NS-10s unlikely, as the reason they were discontinued is that they relied on a particular type of paper for the cone, which became unavailable. Marinair transformers are unavailable too. As are VF14M's.....but that hasn't stopped anyone from "cloning" 1073's or U47's... True, but in this case the difference was enough to get Yamaha to discontinue the model - and reports are that the "modern" replacement sounds nothing like the original... We shall see...
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Post by kcatthedog on Dec 31, 2017 12:25:33 GMT -6
the "modern" replacement sounds nothing like the original... We shall see Wait: isn’t a good thing ?
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Post by drbill on Dec 31, 2017 13:28:28 GMT -6
the "modern" replacement sounds nothing like the original... We shall see Wait: isn’t a good thing ? Haha!! For me it would be. Lived with and mixed on NS10's for a decade, then one morning I got up and said "WTH!!!!! am I doing". Ditched them and never looked back. As for a "clone / replacement"....looks are more important than "sound" when it comes to clones. I have no doubts that someone will "clone" them at some point....
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Post by bwoe on Dec 31, 2017 19:21:21 GMT -6
I have no clue what the market would want next, but I'd personally be interested in a 44 style ribbon, a tube pre based on either UA or RCA designs, 251 or m49 inspired mics.
I don't believe a bricasti-level reverb could be made much cheaper because of the horsepower required by the chipsets, but since this thread is about hypotheticals, and since the real box will be perpetually out of my reach, sign me up!
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